Re: [biofuel] Extending storage life of biodiesel

2004-07-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Philip Interesting, thankyou. Other than the possibility of oxidation causing polymerisation problems, I'm inclined to agree that it's not much of an issue. I've never seen any biodiesel that went bad. We still have some of the first biodiesel we made, more than five years ago, sealed

Re: [biofuel] Extending storage life of biodiesel

2004-07-28 Thread Philip S. Okey
Hello, In relation to the storage issues, from our experience it may not be much of an issue at all at the commercial level we opened up a drum from our first reactor that was 4 years old a couple of weeks ago 45 gallons of it, it had been sitting outside in a steel drum with approximatly 5

Re: [biofuel] Extending storage life of biodiesel

2004-07-28 Thread Tilapia
Muriatic acid is the same as a 50/50 mix of hydrochloric acid and water. Some amount of hydrochloric can be used to balance excess alkalinity, but I don't think it will act as a preservative particularly. I also don't advocate adding chlorine as it will turn to salt with the excess lye. Have

Re: [biofuel] Extending storage life of biodiesel

2004-07-27 Thread Tilapia
Hello again, Dr. Jon Van Gerpen taught a course segment on the oxidation issue. He has charts that show a doubling of storage life of vegetable oil with an antioxidant. Most of these studies have been done on vegetable oil or lard to date, but should translate in some degree to biodiesel.

Re: [biofuel] Extending storage life of biodiesel

2004-07-27 Thread James Merkle
Hi Tom, I was wondering if Muriatic acid can be used as an anti oxidant as well as to help break an emulsion. I used about a table spoon on 5 gallons of emulsification, and it worked great, but I don't know if it will be detrimental to the engine. Be unto others a wish-granting Jewel -The

Re: [biofuel] Extending storage life of biodiesel

2004-07-26 Thread Tilapia
The most effective antioxidants for biodiesel are the same you find in breakfast cereal packaging, namely BHA and BHT. A mixture of the two works even better. Now you can buy premixed antioxidants from companies such as Kodak. It only takes a few ppm to make a dramatic impact on shelf life

Re: [biofuel] Extending storage life of biodiesel

2004-07-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tom, Lurch The most effective antioxidants for biodiesel are the same you find in breakfast cereal packaging, namely BHA and BHT. A mixture of the two works even better. Now you can buy premixed antioxidants from companies such as Kodak. It only takes a few ppm to make a dramatic impact

[biofuel] Extending storage life of biodiesel

2004-07-24 Thread eldenrice
Anyone had any experience using some inert gas such as nitrogen to prevent oxidation of stored biodiesel? Perhaps some sort of oxygen absorber? If there isn't any oxygen in contact with the biodiesel perhaps it would increase storage life.How might this affect algae growth? Lurch