From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kris Book) : Discovery Suggests Near Limitless
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ByÊRobert Matthews : Vancouver Sun :
Monday, April 15, 2002 :
LONDON -- Scientists have discovered vast quantities of hydrogen gas,
widely regarded as the most promising alternative to today's dwindling
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From: steve spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"The low yield of energy from burning hydrogen compared to gas, however,
means that vast quantities
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>To: kirk
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>
>if the creation of such machine is that simple then nobody would
>succeed to restrain its spread (although there probably would be
>attempts to do so). further, that would mea
es would very much like to stop the
> >machine.
> >
> >I am very interested in the last question of the series.
> >What would you do if it was your invention?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Kirk
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Pepu2 [mailt
Kirk, it appears to me that you are asking the wrong question. This is like
asking what would happen if there were a free lunch, or if there were a
perpetual motion machine. These are but dreams that will never happen.
There isn't any such thing, and never can be. Every process has its
det
dison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >Thanks for answering.
> >I had thought it would stop war in the OPEC countries. T
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:37:04AM -0600, kirk wrote:
> I hate deception because manipulation is a form of witchcraft. Truly evil
> conduct.
>
Hold on there -- what's evil about witchcraft, the "craft of the wise"? Wicca
is an extremely benevolent and peaceful religion, unlike christianity. I'
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:08 AM
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Well said Harmon, I don't have your wealth of knowledge on this subject but
I certain
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kirk wrote:
> There is a
> deliberate propaganda effort to demonize Arabic peoples and I loathe
> propaganda because it always presages violence. There is a plan afoot and it
> smells of blood.
> I hate deception because manipulation is a form of witchcraft. Truly evil
> conduct.
>
>
Kindly
uly evil
>conduct.
>
>Kirk
>
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>From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:44 AM
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Goerge,
Here are a few things I've put together. Since we had breached the topic and
gone into religon and politics I'll post this here. Off topic as all get out
but don't think for a second the west is on any high moral ground.
January 16, 1991, when then President Bush attacked Baghdad, and
- Original Kieth:
when did you change the objectives of this site to hate mongaring?
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Goerge,
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On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:37:04AM -0600, kirk wrote:
> I hate deception because manipulati
Make sure they don't block fire egress
when you install them.
Kirk
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From: George Wessel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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kirk wrote:
> There is a
> deliberate propaganda effort to demonize Arabic peoples and I loathe
> propaganda because it always presages violence. There is a plan afoot and
it
> smells
ng on in Gujarat recently, for instance?
>
>Keith
>
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Monty Berg
> > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's
Christ is free energy!
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From: kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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They always convince the peasants they are doing "God'
masters behind him who groomed him, educated him, and set him in place.
There are great parallels between him and that evil little retard, George
W. Bush.
>
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> From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:41 AM
> To:
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> From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:44 AM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust
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> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > >Thanks for answering.
>
Harmon,
Sounds like you have really studied. In fact if you know as much about
religion as you say, I would say you are an expert on the subject. Too bad
you didn't realize that study of religion is as a potent poison as one can
ingest. After all, look what conclusion you came to. You dumped the
Perhaps we could get back to the subject of bio-diesel. Someone was
experimenting with electricity in seperating out the glycerin. Did you have any
luck? What about temperature, will cold for example cause the glycerin to
seperate out of solution? Does glycerin freeze before BD or the other wa
/humanpower.htm
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From: "Monty Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:47 PM
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> Goerge,
>
> Here are a few things I've put togethe
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:04:24PM -0400, Steven-Lee Craig wrote:
> Harmon,
>
> Sounds like you have really studied. In fact if you know as much about
> religion as you say, I would say you are an expert on the subject.
That's correct -- I not only have a degree from the Univ. of Wisc. th
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Kirk,
I don't know where you get off knocking witchcraft, the wicken religion was
a
very peaceful religion and harmonious with nature. The very demonizing you
say
is being appl
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 07:37:17PM -0600, kirk wrote:
> I believe the practice of witchcraft involves love potions etc. does it not?
> So the free will of another is fair game?
> Hm. . .
> Manipulation for gain.
> You see nothing wrong with that?
Hoboy! Where do you get that stuff from, Ki
I just released some hydrogen sulfide gas.Is this free energy?
just trying to get back on subject.
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From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 06:10:29AM +0400, AOAR Welch B. wrote:
> I just released some hydrogen sulfide gas.Is this free energy?
Absolutely the most erudite and enlightened statement of the evening. Is your
real name Ikkyu?
OTOH, how is it free? Mine is produced at a significant cost of pin
Harmon Seaver wrote:
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>You see, that's just what the problem is, the concept that christians have
> that theirs is the only true way, and so that gives them the right to torture,
> burn heretics and witches at the stake, destroy temples and sacred literature,
> and imprison or even kill in
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:42:07PM -0400, steve spence wrote:
> Nice fantasy. No truth to it, but what the hell.
>
No truth, eh? Gee, looked exactly like my kid's history books. Did they change
them again?
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Mr Rabello, my sentiments exactly.
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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I'm sure you'd think of a better way. Courts, sure, and you're dead
> right about patents. Patents don't mean much these days, unless
> you're a big corp, and not even then - the big corps spend a lot of
> time and money f
Hi Motie
>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> > I'm sure you'd think of a better way. Courts, sure, and you're dead
> > right about patents. Patents don't mean much these days, unless
> > you're a big corp, and not even then - the big corps spend a lot of
>
>> Please forgive my cynicism, but it's also very possible the inventor
>>would be worse than broke, and possibly in jail. As soon as this
>>wonderful machine made it to market, the Big Energy Corps would have
>>their own version, with a slight change made and patented, and would
>>have you in Cou
Hi again m65
> >> Please forgive my cynicism, but it's also very possible the inventor
> >>would be worse than broke, and possibly in jail. As soon as this
> >>wonderful machine made it to market, the Big Energy Corps would have
> >>their own version, with a slight change made and patented, and w
>>What has particularly ticked me off in recent years is to see the Auto
>>companies, which are *not* oil companies though they may have ties, working so
>>needlessly against another big non-fossil-fuel which is electricity.
>>Ridiculous
>>and dramatically anti-patriotic.
>
>Patriotic? The auto c
Thanks Ro onya!
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From: "Joe Giacomini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:46 PM
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> Not yet I will try some more experiments in the future. I
Not yet I will try some more experiments in the future. I need a more
controlled environment. I am using a non heated building where the
control sample also displayed some separation. Sorry for the delayed
response all the ranting and raving turned me off to wading through the
emails.
Mike Fri
if the creation of such machine is that simple then nobody would
succeed to restrain its spread (although there probably would be
attempts to do so). further, that would mean the need to re-allocate
at least several million people to different businesses as very much
of oil and related industries
ed in the last question of the series.
What would you do if it was your invention?
Thanks,
Kirk
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From: Pepu2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:10 AM
To: kirk
Subject: Re[2]: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust
if the c
et, with direct
mailings to every grass-roots NGO in the world. Hey, I like it! You'd
have to move fast though, very good coordination. But it could be
done. Wow, what a scenario!!
Best
Keith
>Thanks,
>Kirk
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Pepu2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC
>I am very interested in the last question of the series.
>What would you do if it was your invention?
First let me mention that as to the article from which this question sprang, it
was written by a fairly wide-eyed person who got a number of things wrong and
let his enthusiasm get in the way of
murdoch65 wrote:
> >I am very interested in the last question of the series.
> >What would you do if it was your invention?
>
>First let me mention that as to the article from which this question
>sprang, it
>was written by a fairly wide-eyed person who got a number of things wrong and
>let his
>>Steve decided to take him at his word as to the efficiency of
>>"burning" hydrogen
>>but I disagree with this, as hydrogen fuel cells are making good progress and
>>can be expected to make some more over the next ten or twenty years.
>
>Yes, I think that's right, but I do tend to take issue wit
Hi m65
Thanks for an interesting letter. Interesting and interesting.
> >>Steve decided to take him at his word as to the efficiency of
> >>"burning" hydrogen
> >>but I disagree with this, as hydrogen fuel cells are making good
>progress and
> >>can be expected to make some more over the next t
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