Regarding this: "Re: Could we stop all this POLITICAL Crap??" I've previously posted a moderator's directive against calling for restrictions in the discussions. It's here: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=22972&list=BIOFUEL
Some people have not taken any notice, though some of them have been warned both on- and off-list. So I'll say it again - it's all been said here before, not just by me, and recently. Discussion on this list is free and OPEN. Biofuels is a broad-ranging subect. It's an international list with members from many different cultures and more than a hundred countries, and their views of what is on- or off-topic vary widely. "Politics" is NOT off-topic - some recent views on this from list members: > > What on earth does this have to do with biofuels? > >A lot more than one might think off the cuff, especially when it comes to >who makes the decisions that let you run biofuel on a roadway or not. Another: >The problem you run into ... is that Biodiesel and Ethanol represent MUCH >MUCH more than transesterified WVO and C2H5OH. > >It represents FREEDOM. And THAT my friend, is a political statement. Like >it or not. > >Whether or not a country's a "democracy" .. or a "republic" .. or a >"socialistic country" .. may not be of interest to you now. Purhaps so. >But let me tell you .. it will ... sooner or later. When you try to brew >Ethanol .. and the ATF starts to give you a "weird ... unseen hassle" .... >"seemingly trying to shut you down". Or when you try to make biodiesel >... and you go "what da hell??" .. when you find out that "it's illegal" to >"transport non-edible vegetable oil". When it "seems" ... "as though" ... >" the oil companies don't want YOU .. yes YOU (personally) ... as one of >their competitions. And you start feeling like a "Netscape" who's up >against a "Microsoft". > >When you get past the casual experimentation .. and get into the actual >"production".... and START DECLARING YOUR FREEDOM... don't worry ... the >politics of the whole biofuel deal WILL become apparent to you. And: >The problems are compounded by many years of fundamentally flawed >energy policy, and that's the reason why this discussion BELONGS on >a biofuels list. And: >Political discussion is VITAL to the future of biofuels. And: >For a copy of our anti-war/biodiesel alternatives factsheet, please see: >http://www.veggieavenger.com/news/news.shtml Etc etc etc - this is the majority view here. Those calling for restrictions are a tiny minority - small but loud; if we did it their way the majority would be deprived. Keeping the discussions open deprives nobody and prevents nothing - directly on-topic biofuels discussions continue unhindered all the while. If people have problems with clogged email inboxes, they should learn how to use filters - essential to using any email lists, not just this one. For more info see: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=21700&list=BIOFUEL Some posts are definitely off-topic by any measure, but those posting them know it and seldom stray too far. List members are mature people and do not need nannying by topic-cops. Anyway, such digressions quite often lead to discussion that's very much on-topic and would not otherwise have arisen. So: NO TOPIC-COPS. NO CALLS FOR RESTRICTED DISCUSSION. Finally, re the two links at the bottom of every message you receive, these: >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ The first is a premier source of small-scale biofuels information on the Web. The second is a treasure house of information on all aspects of biofuels, especially biodiesel - it contains 23,000 messages over the last three years, many of them from leaders in the field worldwide. It is an independent archives, not Yahoo's, provided and maintained by list member Martin Klingensmith, with powerful, fast and efficient searching, and no ads. If you have biofuels questions, go ahead and ask, if there's something you want to discuss, nothing's stopping you, if you have information to offer please do so. Best wishes Keith Addison List owner ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
