ct: RE: [biofuel] Question - efficiency of sunlight
conversionCarbon Forcing or solar activity
I think meteoric activity is in there as well sice it is the "doping" of the
photosphere that makes a difference. Plasmas emit photons roughly proportional
to the square of the number of el
I think meteoric activity is in there as well sice it is the "doping" of the
photosphere that makes a difference. Plasmas emit photons roughly proportional
to the square of the number of electrons of the atom making up the plasma. Iron
has 55 so it has much more emission than hydrogen with 1. S
t the
> climate follows a pettern that is larger than we
> have the data to see, and
> although it may be getting warmer, i believe that
> there is nothing we can do
> about it, it is part of a cycle which will
> inevitably lead to an ice age and
> round and round the cycle
rt of a cycle which will
> inevitably lead to an ice age and
> round and round the cycle goes,
>
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Good Point Robert!
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Question - efficiency of sunlight conversion
In most less techincal sources you will find the composition of our
atmosphere listed as 20% Oxygen, 80% Nitrogen and <1% Other gases, which
means that all of the greenhouse gasses that people
ead to an ice age and
round and round the cycle goes,
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"insignificant" and those who bandy the term about should be kept
under close scrutiny.
Todd Swearingen
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Let's think big ... really big. What if we had a global energy plan,
paid
for by all nations so we could think in terms of trillions in spending?
One has to then wonder abou
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Let's think big ... really big. What if we had a global energy plan,
paid
for by all nations so we could think in terms
oal.
Nothing is "insignificant" and those who bandy the term about should be kept
under close scrutiny.
Todd Swearingen
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which I beleive will be far more apt to alter weather than our current
problems of co2 and co
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Hi All at biofuels,
also consider direct methane fuel cells,
being developed as smaller unit for vehicle applications without the
storage/generation/impurities problems.
Methane brewed up from anerobic digestion of organic materials also provides
localised fuel source
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on to Moonshine City, Mars and so on.
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Regarding efficiency: For solar hydrogen success, the
overall cost is
more important than efficiency. Depending on one's
approach, a more
efficient system can be significantly more expensive.
For an interesting way of pr
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>Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello again Donald
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Hello Donald,
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You are free to differ. Doesn't make you correct, though ;-)
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Regarding efficiency: For solar hydrogen success, the
overall cost is
more important than efficiency. Depending on one's
approach, a more
efficient system can be significantly more expensive.
For an interesting way of producing hydrogen from
solar energy that
doesn't get a lot of attention ye
> say you have 100 kWh of electric from a generator,
> and you charge a battery bank, that is more
> efficient than taking the same 100 kWh,
> electrolysing water into hydrogen, pressurizing a
> tank, to feed a fuel cell. This is why hydrogen is
> not commercially made by electrolysis, but from
>
Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello again Donald
>As an aside, I am puzzled as to why there is so much emphasis being
>placed on the "Hydrogen Economy" at the moment, especially by the US
>government. Hydogen is just a way of storing and transporting energy,
>just as are biofuels.
A fuel cell is a "battery". Where lead acid batteries require electricity to
charge them, fuel cells require a fuel to "charge" them. Now, let's say you
have 100 kWh of electric from a generator, and you charge a battery bank, that
is more efficient than taking the same 100 kWh, electrolysing w
As an aside, I am puzzled as to why there is so much emphasis being
placed on the "Hydrogen Economy" at the moment, especially by the US
government. Hydogen is just a way of storing and transporting energy,
just as are biofuels. OK, I realise that fuel cells can theoretically
deliver a greate
Two replies from me...
Thanks for your replies to this query - and apologies for not
responding sooner, I've been away for a week so only just been able to
read your replies.
I think the major issue I had missed that is relevant is dfference in
employment generation between PV solar panels an
Thanks for your replies to this query - and apologies for not
responding sooner, I've been away for a week so only just been able to
read your replies.
I think the major issue I had missed that is relevant is dfference in
employment generation between PV solar panels and biofuels - taking
into co
Donald (and all), I certainly don't have all the answers (maybe none), but it
is a
complex topic, and I can certainly muddy the waters a bit more. Comments
inserted
below.
Donald Allwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a question that some of you might be able to shed some light on.
>
Hi Hakan, Donald
>Donald,
>
>One very important part for biofuels that you forgot, is the positive
>effect on job creation and the village economy. It is possible reselling
>and creation of income for the village. Maybe the following can give you
>more ideas.
>
>http://www.undp.org/seed/energy/co
Donald,
One very important part for biofuels that you forgot, is the positive
effect on job creation and the village economy. It is possible reselling
and creation of income for the village. Maybe the following can give you
more ideas.
http://www.undp.org/seed/energy/contents.html
Biofuel w
I have a question that some of you might be able to shed some light on.
As well as having an interest in biofuels, I also have an interest in
Third World development issues and other technologies, including Solar
energy collection and storage. So when trying to find an 'energy
solution' for a rem
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