Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-03 Thread capt3d
hello, tim. tim wrote: << then why was N Korea doing exactly the same things during the Clinton Administration? >> someone pelase corect me if i've got this wrong, but my understanding has been that the agreement(s) drafted under the clinton administration were specifically about plutonuim we

RE: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-03 Thread Tim Ferguson
Hello Mike,   Not that I support what the Bush administration is doing or done but if your comment below is true then why was N Korea doing exactly the same things during the Clinton Administration? Just curious. If memory serves me correctly the Clinton administration signed an agreement wi

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike "The reason N Korea is starving it's people and almost killing itself to get nuclear weapons is precisely because the Bush administration had developed a policy along the lines you suggest." Can anyone point to a credible source that outlines the timeline for the above policies of

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-03 Thread Mike Noe
"The reason N Korea is starving it’s people and almost killing itself to get nuclear weapons is precisely because the Bush administration had developed a policy along the lines you suggest." Can anyone point to a credible source that outlines the timeline for the above policies of N Korea? -M

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-02 Thread Michael Redler
"The reason N Korea is starving it’s people and almost killing itself to get nuclear weapons is precisely because the Bush administration had developed a policy along the lines you suggest."   Nice Rick. IMO, that analysis, is one of the most important and least emphasized in the broken and no

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-02 Thread hakan
If you follow up this logic, Today it is many in the world who hate Americans (not me). So if you find them uninvited on your territory, i.e. Iraq, it is ok to kill them? In this case they are more dangerous than cats, because the are "trigger happy" and can easily kill you by "mistake". As a res

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-02 Thread Larry Foran
Jason, I have to disagree with assumptions with respect to N. Korea. While North Korea and South Korea were "talking about steps which could lead to re-unification" and during the Clinton Presidency, North Korea was still developing the technology and infrastructure to build nuclear weapons. N

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-02 Thread ron
Like the psychopathic neighbor who periodically kills a cat for no reason. "I'm a loose cannon, and you better not [EMAIL PROTECTED] with me (or even look like yer THINKIN' about it!) I believe this is in fact their chosen image, and in many cases their actual nature. To me VERY distur

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-02 Thread Richard Littrell
Dear Jason, On the face of it your suggestion seems like it should work but in practice it has not. The reason N Korea is starving it’s people and almost killing itself to get nuclear weapons is precisely because the Bush administration had developed a policy along the lines you suggest. Beca

RE: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-01 Thread Bede
Addison Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:02 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy Greetings Rick >Dear Keith, > >If this is true it is very disturbing Yes! I'd be surprised if it wasn't true. I've been watching it

RE: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-01 Thread Keith Addison
iew of it, and neither does the rest of the world, nor huge swathes of America either. Thank God. Regards Keith Jason Schick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:02 PM To: Biofuel@sustainableli

RE: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-01 Thread Neil Goatman
no wonder usa has lots of enemies -Original Message- From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 1:02 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy on 5/31/05 12:37 PM, Jason Schick at [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-01 Thread Michael Redler
"War is the continuation of policy (politics) by other means."- Karl Von Clausewitz   If war without provocation serves to satisfy a political ambition, I doubt that there will be a second thought on the matter -- especially considering the simple minds who have found their way to the top of the

RE: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-01 Thread Gene Rotter
f Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:02 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy Greetings Rick >Dear Keith, > >If this is true it is very disturbing Yes! I'd be surprised if it wasn't true. I've been wa

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-06-01 Thread Ken Provost
on 5/31/05 12:37 PM, Jason Schick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is not disturbing to me at all. What it does is warn our enemies, and > we do have legitimate enemies, that we will not necessarily wait to be > struck first. Like the psychopathic neighbor who periodically kills a cat for

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-05-31 Thread Keith Addison
Dear Keith, If this is true it is very disturbing Yes! I'd be surprised if it wasn't true. I've been watching it building, bit by bit, for the last couple of years, and not just via Jonathan Schell (who usually gets it right anyway). as it implies that the US has adopted a "first strike"

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-05-31 Thread John Hayes
whole, but I did want to throw out a comment on MAD and WMDs. I don't see the expansion of the MAD doctrine to include non-nuclear WMDs as being logically inconsistent. Given the very premise of MAD is that certain actions are unwinnable given the assurance of retaliation, the *exclusion* of

Re: [Biofuel] A Revolution in American Nuclear Policy

2005-05-31 Thread Richard Littrell
If this is true it is very disturbing as it implies that the US has adopted a "first strike" policy which is a change that I can't imagine the congress going along with. Contrary to what Schell says the US has had a policy that we would not be the first to use nuclear weapons and to that en