Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-16 Thread Dale Scroggins
--- R Del [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Understood. > > > If the oil contains salts or semi-soluble fatty > acids, distillation is > > even more difficult. > > Can you expand on this point? As the percentage of water in the solution decreases (its molar fraction) its vapor pressure will cont

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-16 Thread R Del Bueno
I built up a vac/boiler from a 40 gallon water heater. http://www.zerotec.com/vegenergy/dewater/ Added the option to introduce dry air (nitrogen is what I happen to have a few tanks of) via the dip tube, to help agitate. Right now it runs down to around 23.5" vac, and you can hear the boilin

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-15 Thread Dale Scroggins
In order to remove water content from waste fryer oils, I have been considering a combined heat/vacuum system. I have been wondering if a standard electric water heater vessel can handle a vacuum of ~24" of mercury vacuum...anyone tried this yet? The boiling point of water is around 140degF

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-15 Thread Pieter Koole
ter Koole - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat You can find one from an old fridge... The compressor. Black thingie... Mine cort me about 3$ at the

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-15 Thread Pieter Koole
Thank you, I'll have a look round. Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: "des" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-14 Thread bioteo
You can find one from an old fridge... The compressor. Black thingie... Mine cort me about 3$ at the junk yard. You can use it for sucking and pumping... Teoman -- original message -- Subject:Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat From: Pieter Koole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-14 Thread des
Where does one find a vacuumpump ? Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole They are used regularly in garages that work on airconditioning systems in cars, also used in home airconditioning systems, refrigerators, freezers... They are used to remove water from the refrigerant syste

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-14 Thread Pieter Koole
Where does one find a vacuumpump ? Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: "R Del Bueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 2:15 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-14 Thread R Del Bueno
The 40 gallon electric water heater held 26" of vacuum all afternoon. Will post details of actual dewatering soon. -Rob ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeyt

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-13 Thread Pieter Koole
water. > > > Of course. I new that. Stupid me ! Sorry. Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat > > > > > Norma

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-13 Thread Joe . Guthrie
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Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-13 Thread Pieter Koole
ecause I have been thinking on this subject also ). Is there a table or so, where one can find at what pressures water boils ? Pieter Koole Netherlands - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering WVO with vacuum and heat

2005-05-12 Thread Joe . Guthrie
Rob, I think a water heater will stand the vacuum easily since it is at the most 15 PSI compression on the steel, compared to 150 or more in tension when in normal use. Not sure it will save energy. Vapor pressure at 140 F for water is 150 mm Hg or equiv of 24 in vacuum but you will need

Re: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-20 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
dustry in > general and > to third world countries as refined yellow grease for edible purposes. > > Todd Swearingen > > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:28 PM >

Re: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
r Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] dewatering WVO > Hi Keith: > > Any idea what the recyclers do with WVO? I talked to a couple of restaurants > and found out that there are people who buy their WVO. The restaurants >

Re: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-19 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Yes, and then run it through a water separator filter or two on its way to the engine, if you want to do a more thorough job. Our G3 SVO Max kit uses this approach ...gravity settle only, followed by a trip through a heated filter with two stage filtration and water separation. Edward Beggs N

RE: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-19 Thread Christopher Tan
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Re: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
Brent, 100*C is the boiling point for water. To get rid of water by the boiling method not only do you have to expend massive amounts of energy, but the water wil inevitably atomize and stay mixed with oil to some degree, even if you boil the beejeebers out of it. Your best bet is to heat the oi

Re: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Addison
>Hey Kieth- > >Which restaurants did you learn not to eat at, and why? > >Best Regards, > >John D, in Ohio Hello John As a general rule we've found the cheaper the restaurant the worse the WVO - more abused, cooked longer and probably hotter before being renewed, higher FFA levels. Others say

Re: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-19 Thread Johndrou
Hey Kieth- Which restaurants did you learn not to eat at, and why? Best Regards, John D, in Ohio ~ >I read the information on dewatering the WVO, but when I was heating >the oil I noticed that when it was taken off the heat and pour

Re: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
>I read the information on dewatering the WVO, but when I was heating >the oil I noticed that when it was taken off the heat and poured off, >that there was water settled on the bottom. Can this be a way to >dewater more quickly? Just heat the oil to 100 deg. C and then pour >the oil off the top?