Re: [Svardos-users] Change pkg command output

Hi Mateusz, hi all, >> I'd like to change pkg: >> Show ', X errors' only, if there really was one or more errors. >> >> Reason: Over the years my brain became trained to spot the word 'error' >> very quickly. In the case of pkg just to see that error count is 0 all >> the time so far. > > +1 To

Re: [Svardos-users] Three updated packages

Hi Mateusz, >> Today I updated the SvarDOS packages for UPX, NASM, and the Links WWW >> browser. > > Apparently you also added WDe (disk editor) 1.0, Blocek 1.72 and > Gopherus 1.2.2. :) Yes. These are today's results so far. :-) Yesterday I started creating a larger Windows batch file to fetc

[Svardos-users] Three updated packages

Hi all! Today I updated the SvarDOS packages for UPX, NASM, and the Links WWW browser. Cheers, Robert -- BTTR Software https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/ ___ Svardos-users mailing list Svardos-users@lis

Re: [Svardos-users] Simple File Browser/Manager

Hi Carsten, >> Is this Peter Campbell/Bruce Axten's FAST, which is under GNU GPL since >> 2017? > > yes. Having FAST under GPL would be great. Do you know where I can > find it? A search with all my favourite search engines did not show > any useful results. https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/new

[Svardos-users] Change pkg command output

Hi all, I'd like to change pkg: Show ', X errors' only, if there really was one or more errors. Reason: Over the years my brain became trained to spot the word 'error' very quickly. In the case of pkg just to see that error count is 0 all the time so far. Any votes against this change? Cheers,

Re: [Svardos-users] Request to add package: lDebug (release 4)

Hi Mateusz, > Robert can sometimes be a little bit "German" (that's what Poles say > about someone very focused on details). But that's usually a good thing, > in Robert's case. :) Yes. 'Made in Germany'. What started as a harassment in the UK 135 years ago, became an attribute of quality quick

Re: [Svardos-users] SvarCOM ver 2022.3

Hi Mateusz, >> I had to force a rebuild of all install media, because after installing >> SvarDOS it didn't find command.com, because CONFIG.SYS pointed to >> 'C:\SVARDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM'. -- Wild guess: build.sh was to fast when >> rebuilding install media to pull latest install.com in. > > I do

Re: [Svardos-users] SvarCOM ver 2022.3

Hi all, > As an experiment I did a SvarDOS build that uses SvarCOM instead of > FreeCOM. It is the build 20220312, available in the "files" section of > the website: http://svardos.org/?p=files I had to force a rebuild of all install media, because after installing SvarDOS it didn't find comman

Re: [Svardos-users] SvarCOM ver 2022.3

Hi Mateusz, > SvarCOM 2022.3 has been published right now. It comes with many > improvements and bug fixes. Many thanks to Robert Riebisch who dedicated > a lot of time to perform extensive tests on SvarCOM and had the strength > to annoy me over and over about the various glitches he found. >

Re: [Svardos-users] SvarCOM ver 2022.3

Hi Mateusz, > SvarCOM 2022.3 has been published right now. It comes with many > improvements and bug fixes. Many thanks to Robert Riebisch who dedicated > a lot of time to perform extensive tests on SvarCOM and had the strength > to annoy me over and over about the various glitches he found. F

[Svardos-users] SvarDOS update mode?

Hi all, updating packages over the net is nice, but does SvarDOS offer an update mode for the installer? Or is there any interest? I mean: 1. Detect current SvarDOS installation. (Allow override by the user, if he moved SvarDOS to another directory.) 2. SET DOSDIR=C:\SVARDOS or to whatever is cor

Re: [Svardos-users] Size of SVARCOM.LNG or any other SvarLANG lib .LNG file

Hi Mateusz, >>> Indeed, not in my plans. >> >> Good we talked about. :-) > > Just to extend on the topic: making the bootable diskette (ie. "disk #1" > from the install set) properly multilanguage-aware would require that > all included applications have NLS available as well. Applications ten

Re: [Svardos-users] Size of SVARCOM.LNG or any other SvarLANG lib .LNG file

Hi Mateusz, >> True, but SvarCOM on install media will have no SVARCOM.LNG unpacked, so >> switching languages is not supported? ;-) > > Indeed, not in my plans. Good we talked about. :-) Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ai

Re: [Svardos-users] Size of SVARCOM.LNG or any other SvarLANG lib .LNG file

Hi Mateusz, >> Ok. We talk again, when the ISO file hits the 2.88M barrier. ;-) > > Of course, but then it's not 9K we are talking about, but only 1.7K > (because it's zipped in the svp package) :-D True, but SvarCOM on install media will have no SVARCOM.LNG unpacked, so switching languages is

Re: [Svardos-users] Size of SVARCOM.LNG or any other SvarLANG lib .LNG file

Hi Mateusz, >> So, reloading the transient portion after every "SET LANG=EN" would save >> 10k from SVARCOM.LNG. Maybe worth to think about. > > Saving 10 kiB (8.77K to be precise) of *hard disk* space does not look > very appealing to me (ie. worth putting any effort into)... It would > also

Re: [Svardos-users] Size of SVARCOM.LNG or any other SvarLANG lib .LNG file

Hi Mateusz, >> But doesn't SvarCOM reload the transient part all the time after running >> some external command? > > External is the important word, yes. Counting on the reload of the > transient command.com part for obtaining EN strings would lead to such > situations: > > SET LANG=PL -> st

Re: [Svardos-users] Size of SVARCOM.LNG or any other SvarLANG lib .LNG file

Hi Mateusz, >> probably it's just stupid me, but why do language files include English >> messages again, when these are already embedded in the program's executable? > > They are embedded in the program's executable as default, but can be > replaced by something else in runtime (typically when

[Svardos-users] Size of SVARCOM.LNG or any other SvarLANG lib .LNG file

Hi Mateusz, probably it's just stupid me, but why do language files include English messages again, when these are already embedded in the program's executable? Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead: https://www.bttr-so

[Svardos-users] SvarCOM executable links (2nd try)

Hi all, as a follow-up to my previous (incomplete) mail, I created several tickets. You're invited to participate. 1) 'ln add' not working https://osdn.net/projects/svardos/ticket/44042 2) 2nd time 'ln add' for the same linkname is a no-op https://osdn.net/projects/svardos/ticket/44043 3)

Re: [Svardos-users] SvarCOM executable links

Sorry, please ignore this message. It was sent in accident and is incomplete. Robert > Hi, > > I installed SvarCOM 2022.2 and tried to create a link to > 'C:\PROGS\FED\FED.EXE'. > > Help reads: > Adds, deletes or displays executable links. > > LN ADD linkname targetdir > LN DEL linkname > LN L

[Svardos-users] SvarCOM executable links

Hi, I installed SvarCOM 2022.2 and tried to create a link to 'C:\PROGS\FED\FED.EXE'. Help reads: Adds, deletes or displays executable links. LN ADD linkname targetdir LN DEL linkname LN LIST [pattern] At C:\ I tried: 1) ln add fed.exe c:\progs\fed\ -> File not found 2) ln add fed.exe c:\prog

Re: [Svardos-users] Feedback on Svardos on an Amstrad PC1640 (NECV30)

Hi Markus, > emulator. Also, I had the feeling that the installer was faster as long > as it was running on top of a DOS 5.0 kernel, and then slower under the > SVARDOS one. As SvarDOS uses the FreeDOS kernel, I remember some discussion on the FreeDOS mailing list about the FreeDOS kernel being s

Re: [Svardos-users] 360K sets + SvarDOS build server automated

> 2. Some of you (Chris and Carsten) asked for a 360K build. I made it > today, it's implemented within the SvarDOS build process so 360K sets > will be also automatically generated since now on. This build has one > limitation: it is EN-only. I assume that if a machine has a 360K drive, > it i

Re: [Svardos-users] Completeness of 8086 compatibility?

>> I remember that MEM was hanging my 8086-based T1100, and now I see it >> misreports available memory under the emulator you used, so there's >> probably something not 100% right with it. > > Minor update: Available memory is only misreported with the Turbo XT > BIOSes. No problems with AMI, A

Re: [Svardos-users] Completeness of 8086 compatibility?

Hi Mateusz, > I remember that MEM was hanging my 8086-based T1100, and now I see it > misreports available memory under the emulator you used, so there's > probably something not 100% right with it. Minor update: Available memory is only misreported with the Turbo XT BIOSes. No problems with AM

Re: [Svardos-users] Simple File Browser/Manager

Hi Carsten, > a) > > I've done "C" development on Unix/Linux and OS/2 (back in the days), > but so far never on DOS (I did Assembly, Turbo-Pascal, Forth, and an > obscure but great C-like language called "FAST!"). Is this Peter Campbell/Bruce Axten's FAST, which is under GNU GPL since 2017? > I

Re: [Svardos-users] Simple File Browser/Manager

Hi Carsten, > (changed the topic) +1 >> You need to solve this: >> >> Text files in DOS are usually 80 chars wide (\*). So there's no room for >> >> the file pane anymore. You would need to a find a nice solution to >> >> switch views, because I don't think, users would like to scroll >> >> hori

Re: [Svardos-users] Package inclusion request [PC Atari Emulador - DOS Version]

Hi Luzemário, > It worked very smooth for me... I have 526 cartridge images and few > (most clones) did not work on bare hardware. > > Good emulation speed and the most important (for me): a 6502 > disassembler/debbuger. > > Thanks for including, there was few sources for this on the internet. >

Re: [Svardos-users] Package inclusion request [PC Atari Emulador - DOS Version]

> Good news: Robert included PCAE 2.5 into the repository, as per your > request from 6 months ago. :) > > how to install it: > > pkgnet pull pcae > pkg install pcae.svp > > I have to say that this emulator does not look super stable, though. I > prefer z26, as it behaves better (at least on t

Re: [Svardos-users] Anybody out there?

Hi Carsten, >> How about this one: >> Minimalist file browser included in CORE >> https://osdn.net/projects/svardos/ticket/43914 >> >> We are not in hurry. So take your time. :-) >> > > how about a clone (not a port) of NNN (https://github.com/jarun/nnn)? Interesting. :-) But... ;-) You need to

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >>> You don't need to load the entire binary a second time, just a copy of >>> the environment data and possibly internal stateful variables. FreeCOM >> >> I guess, the(ir) excuse is, that MS-DOS works the same way. ;-) > > It does not. MS-DOS command.com allocates a little memory se

Re: [Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP

Hi Mateusz, >> If you don't mind, I'll make a help system chapter from it. > > I had put it into svn as a file in the idea that such "internal" stuff > would not clutter the "user-faced" help with boring build- and repo- > related stuff that users don't have (write) access to anyway... But > m

Re: [Svardos-users] Anybody out there?

Hi Carsten, > Seriously, if there is a smaller task that I can help within Svardos, > let me know. I can program in almost any language (C/C++, Pascal, > Assembler, Forth, Lisp ...) How about this one: Minimalist file browser included in CORE https://osdn.net/projects/svardos/ticket/43914 We are

Re: [Svardos-users] Some "MSDOS-like" programs are not part of SvarDOS CORE

Hi Carsten, > I agree with Robert that DEBUG is a very essential tool, because it can > be used to bootstrap other binaries. And yes, I do such stuff, typing in > assembly into DEBUG to patch binaries or even to create new program > binaries. +1 > My use case is not to recover, but to *use* vint

Re: [Svardos-users] Some "MSDOS-like" programs are not part of SvarDOS CORE

Hi Carsten, > DEBUG.COM is enough for the base install disks, DEBUGX.COM could be > an installable package. Exactly. We can split these two. Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/ _

Re: [Svardos-users] Some "MSDOS-like" programs are not part of SvarDOS CORE

Hi Mateusz, >> Yes, I want to have debug tool handy, but I install it as a package, >> just before the emergency happens. I do not see the need to have it on >> the install floppies if space constraints are an issue. > > Same for me, but Robert just spent two days doing an awesome job of > cle

Re: [Svardos-users] Some "MSDOS-like" programs are not part of SvarDOS CORE

Hi Luzemario, > Debug is essential for programmers, only. Not all DOS users are > programmers. Actually most of DOS users are hackers, but what? If such I disagree. If you give a user exact instructions, he'll also make use of DEBUG. > user cannot access the network (so there is no e-mail), wi

Re: [Svardos-users] Some "MSDOS-like" programs are not part of SvarDOS CORE

Hi Mateusz, > That's what I think, as well. The only "problem" I see is a human one, > where some people may argue on the definition of "critical". For > instance recently Robert asked for including DEBUG to the installation Yes, I think DEBUG is critical. See my reply to Luzemário. > medium,

Re: [Svardos-users] Some "MSDOS-like" programs are not part of SvarDOS CORE

Hi Carsten, > I would vote for option 3. As the rule, you wrote "include only > things that are truly critical". I think that is a good rule. I agree. And for the users we need some sort of compatibility chart between MS-DOS and SvarDOS. By "accident", this is already on my todo list since a few

Re: [Svardos-users] Some "MSDOS-like" programs are not part of SvarDOS CORE

Hi Mateusz, > When I created the initial version of SvarDOS, I wanted to make it as > lean as possible, and excluded some of such "MSDOS-like" programs that I > myself rarely used (append, assign, debug, print, ...). This was to keep > the number of installation floppies as low as possible, so

Re: [Svardos-users] Some "MSDOS-like" programs are not part of SvarDOS CORE

Hi Luzemario, > This is a subjective subject (oh, man...) Yes, indeed. > For me, debug is essential for programming. But I don't think it will be > of much usage to have it included by default. To "boot" the system and > establish networking, it is not needed. So it can be downloaded later, >

Re: [Svardos-users] Anybody out there?

Hi Carsten, > Seriously, if there is a smaller task that I can help within Svardos, > let me know. I can program in almost any language (C/C++, Pascal, > Assembler, Forth, Lisp ...) Thanks for your offer! At the moment, nothing comes to my mind. Except: Did you already proof-read the translated H

[Svardos-users] Translatable LSM descriptions

Hi, this thread will be follow-up to the discussion https://osdn.net/projects/svardos/ticket/43841 ("add svarlang.lib support"), because I find OSDN ticket system really for discussion. I would like to add something to the four options (see ticket for details), although it's just an idea and open

Re: [Svardos-users] pkg.exe's definition

Hi Mateusz, >> minor "issue": According to the help system, pkg is "the package >> manager", but pkg.exe's help screen says "the package installer". >> >> I'd like to have both "in sync" for clarity. > > Sure. You know where to do the change. :) Done. Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR

[Svardos-users] pkg.exe's definition

Hi, minor "issue": According to the help system, pkg is "the package manager", but pkg.exe's help screen says "the package installer". I'd like to have both "in sync" for clarity. I would go with "the package manager", because the word "installer" hides the fact, pkg is also for removing or upda

Re: [Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP

Hi Mateusz, > Note that all the renaming operations must be performed via svn (svn mv > doszip.svp doszip-2.52.svp), because svn must know where the data comes > from and what moved where. So basically: > > svn mv doszip.svp doszip-2.52.svp > svn mv doszip.zip doszip-2.52.zip > (copying your ne

Re: [Svardos-users] Anybody out there?

Hi Carsten, >> Is there anybody else reading this mailing list except Mateusz and me? :-) >> > > Yes, I'm reading the list and using Svardos, but so far I had no input. Okay, I see. :-) But you will chime in, when we start talking about porting the installer to Forth? ;-) Cheers, Robert --

Re: [Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP

Hi Mateusz, >> Now I need to: >> 1. Rename doszip.svp to doszip-2.52.svp. >> 2. Rename doszip.zip to doszip-2.52.zip. >> 3. Put the new doszip.svp and doszip.zip files in place. > > Exactly, yes. I think that I documented these steps in the "for > packagers" documentation, but it might not be as

[Svardos-users] Anybody out there?

Hi all! Is there anybody else reading this mailing list except Mateusz and me? :-) Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/ ___ Svardos-user

Re: [Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP

Hi Mateusz, > I'm trying to create a new package version for DOSZIP. What are the correct steps in SVN for publishing a DOSZIP 2.57 package? I already checked out the packages/ folder. I also created a new doszip.svp file in a temporary folder. Now I need to: 1. Rename doszip.svp to doszip-2.52

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >>> FreeCOM takes up 70K of memory. A second copy takes also 70K of memory >>> (yes, it's stupid but that's how it is). PKG.EXE requires some 100K of >> >> Why is that stupid? How could a copy be smaller? It wouldn't be a copy then. > > You don't need to load the entire binary a seco

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

> Going back *several* steps... > Why not just write the ISO version to postinstall.bat? > Either as a comment at the top. Or echo it to the user at the end. Change: 5.1:SvarDOS installation is over. Please restart your computer now. to: 5.1:Installing SvarDOS (14 Feb 2022) is over. Please restar

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >>> - running a second copy of COMMAND.COM (memory usage+) >> >> That is a problem on what computer? > > FreeCOM takes up 70K of memory. A second copy takes also 70K of memory > (yes, it's stupid but that's how it is). PKG.EXE requires some 100K of Why is that stupid? How could a

Re: [Svardos-users] pkg: placement of programs or games

Hi Mateusz, > I honestly don't know for sure. I agree that the default locations are > not nice, and myself I usually put software in subdirectories (unless > it's a really small system, in which case I leave everything in the > root, where "everything" is like 10 or 15 programs tops). I see.

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, >>> I think, >>> >>> needs some update from your side, because the Svarog Wikipedia article >>> seems to have changed in many ways. >> >> Except that part I'm done with the German translation so far. > > Very nice w

Re: [Svardos-users] pkg: placement of programs or games

Any comments here? > Hi Mateusz, > > currently programs or games are placed to C:\, because that's where > %DOSDIR%\CFG\PKG.CFG points to. > > But I don't like it that way. ;-) > Yes, I can changed this by editing PKG.CFG, but did you know, that FAT16 > has limit of 512 entries in the root direc

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >>> well?), but using this at post-install time, along with the extra tee, >>> really seems to be a lot of hoops for not much... Let's not forget that >> >> "a lot of"? >> Just two. > > Yes, two bricks, but they imply quite a few acrobatic figures: > > - loading a hack into memory t

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

>> I don't know if you noticed: the help on the website now features the DE >> version as well. It is updated immediately from svn. > > I think, > > needs some update from your side, because the Svarog Wikipedia article > seems

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, > 2022-2048 Translated by Robert, with fixes from Ulrich Is "2022-2048" your answer to my unquoted: > Maybe more important is, *when* the translation was done. > When the user then compares this date with the date at the English (or > any other language) version, he might have an impr

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, >>> I would propose something simpler: >>> >>> "This is a translation of the english documentation and might not be up >>> to date. Type HELP EN to consult the english version when in doubt." >> >> I like that too, but in which way is this more simple? > > It's only simpler to implem

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, > I don't know if you noticed: the help on the website now features the DE > version as well. It is updated immediately from svn. I think, needs some update from your side, because the Svarog Wikipedia article seems

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, >> Did you already think about providing some kind of automatic page >> footer, especially for the help files, for easy switching between >> different languages? > > In the same way of thinking, the user should be able to read the help of > every package also in different languages..

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, > I don't know if you noticed: the help on the website now features the DE > version as well. It is updated immediately from svn. Did you already think about providing some kind of automatic page footer, especially for the help files, for easy switching between different languages?

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, > Hi, your 2TO1 TSR looks nice and potentially very useful in many cases > (perhaps you could make a package of it? and one of PC mag's tee as Yes, I will do so, but both need some cleanup before. > well?), but using this at post-install time, along with the extra tee, > really se

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

> For the SvarDOS install process, you would need to: > 1) Copy 2TO1.COM and TEE2.COM to C:. > 2) Change install.c: > fd = fopen(buff, "wb"); > if (fd == NULL) return(-1); > fprintf(fd, "@ECHO OFF\r\n" > "SET DOSDIR=C:\\SVARDOS\r\n" > "SET NLSPATH=%%DOSDIR%%\\NLS\r

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

>> P.S. some of your files are badly encoded (some 8 bit ISO encoding it >> seems, instead of UTF-8) > > Erm, I'll check this. > Although I thought at first, that the error happens on *your* site. *g* Fixed. Shame on me. Forgot to convert to UTF-8, so it was still in ANSI. Cheers, Robert --

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

> An easier way too, because I already have a working version, is a TSR > that hooks DOS function 40h (WRITE TO FILE) and everytime it is called > with handle to write to is 2, change that to 1. > > A TSR should not hurt at this stage of the installation, because we > reboot after anyway. But if y

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >> What do you think? Would it be hard to implement >> "command > file 2>&1 -- Redirect errors and output to one file"? >> (https://ss64.com/nt/syntax-redirection.html) > > The parsing would be definitely more complex. Of course, but hey, it's written in C not assembler. ;-) >> Woul

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, > I don't know if you noticed: the help on the website now features the DE > version as well. It is updated immediately from svn. Yes, I've noticed. Thanks! :-) > P.S. some of your files are badly encoded (some 8 bit ISO encoding it > seems, instead of UTF-8) Erm, I'll check this.

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >> Could anything that C:\TEMP\POSTINST.BAT does, write to stderr? > > Actually, yes. SvarCOM logs DOS errors to stderr (like disk write error > etc). So any of these commands could emit a DOS error to stderr (which > won't land in the log file): Having an install.log w/o the error

Re: [Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP (LFN issue)

Hi Mateusz, >> I agree. Often the easiest solution is the best. > > We're on the same page then. I think indeed it's the most optimal way, > and it's probably better to have packages with a specific extension > anyway, so it's clear that it is not a "normal" zip file. Storing Except from the

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >> If possible, use "tee". So it's on the screen for the user AND in the >> log file for "debugging". > > Over-thinking things again, eh? ;-) We'll see. ;-) > pkg append.zip >> %DOSDIR%\install.log > pkg command.zip >> %DOSDIR%\install.log > pkg deltree.zip >> %DOSDIR%\install.log >

Re: [Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP (LFN issue)

Hi Mateusz, >> There is , but it would be hard >> (impossible?) to port to 8086 code, because of limited and segmented memory. >> I built Lzip for DOS using DJGPP some years ago, but that's a different, >> because 386+, story: https://www.bttr-software.de/po

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, >> But why cp850? It least for German, you put cp858 to config.sys. > > Fixed now. :-) Already found and checked out. >> And you already started translation. ;-) (HILFESYSTEM) > > Yes, that's the maximum I can do in this language (and I have been > heavily assisted by google). I a

Re: [Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, >> I'd like to start translating the SvarDOS Help to German, although it's >> still sparse as we know. > > That's an ambitious task (on the long term). Good luck! I only said, that I will *start*. ;-) I didn't say anything about finishing or later involvement. Thanks! :-) >> I don'

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >> If you still think, the cluster would be wasted, you could write a >> complete install log to that file. After formatting C:, of course. > > That's actually a good idea, which would bring much more added value > than just storing a build date. And it's relatively easy to do: just

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >> Okay. How would you like to achieve this result? > > Good point. I was initially thinking about INT 21/AX=5701h, but now I > see that this call supports only files, not directories. This makes the > entire idea immediately more complex. It's not, that nobody didn't try it before

[Svardos-users] Translating SvarDOS Help

Hi Mateusz, I'd like to start translating the SvarDOS Help to German, although it's still sparse as we know. I don't expect any code page problems, because existing English help files don't use special symbols >127 ASCII. Can you please enhance "svardos/help/rebuild.sh" in a way, that it can als

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >> I also thought about that, but: >> 1) You are about to abuse a feature, that was meant for other purposes. >> What if some users wonder why the %DOSDIR% date doesn't match the >> installation date as they would expect? > > True, but it is worth noting that such "abuse" was used bac

Re: [Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP (LFN issue)

Hi Mateusz, >>I agree to your opinion that option 2 would probably be the best (= >>stable + least work) for SvarDOS. > > Cool, then let's go with that then. :) > This means that you may zip the doszip sources any way you wish to make it > work. *g* > One last "issue" is the filename that a "s

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >>If you care about clusters and FAT entries now, why do you still follow >>the one-cluster-per-link approach in SvarCOM? :-D > > I always cared - but I also care about keeping things simple (when > it's possible and reasonable), and sometimes this results in a > compromise. Ok > A

Re: [Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP (LFN issue)

Hi Mateusz, > This problem occurs with many other packages as well. My biased > opinion is that packages should be 8+3 compatible, otherwise havoc may > happen when user will try to install it. I thought about it already > (because it is a problem I had with fdnpkg as well) and I see two > realist

[Svardos-users] Creating a new package version for DOSZIP (LFN issue)

Hi Mateusz, I'm trying to create a new package version for DOSZIP. With the regular package all is fine, but when creating the source code package Info-Zip's zip gave me: ### $ zip -9rkDX ..\doszip.src.zip SOURCE zip warning: first full name: SOURCE/DOSZIP/lib/src/res/common/ConfirmDel

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >> This is the approach *I* don't like, because: >> 1) People editing AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS might remove those lines. > > People could just as well remove the useless version file... The Sure. > difference is that a line in autoexec.bat or config.sys costs nothing, > while a

Re: [Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, >> Maybe we could put some "marker file" to C:\ during install? >> I.e., >> 1) During the build process of ISOs and floppies create a file >> SVARDOS.LOG or SVDINFO.TXT containing: >> "SvarDOS installed from [-mm-dd|dd mmm ] medium on >> "[-mm-dd|dd mmm ]. >> 2) During

[Svardos-users] Feature Request for AMB: WASD keys

Hi Mateusz, another thing for the AMB TODO list: Really ancient keyboards don't have any cursor / arrow keys. Allow WASD keys, or whatever you may find suitable, as an alternative. Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead:

[Svardos-users] Feature Request for AMB: SHIFT+TAB

Hi Mateusz, please add "SHIFT+TAB jump to previous link" to your TODO list. Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/ ___ Svardos-users mail

Re: [Svardos-users] Previous SVN repo at OSDN

> can you please put a README file to > https://osdn.net/projects/svardos/scm/svn/ containing: > > Since 07 Feb 2022 this repository is not maintained any longer. Please > use http://svn.svardos.org/ instead. "use" -> "visit" Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page:

[Svardos-users] Previous SVN repo at OSDN

Hi Mateusz, can you please put a README file to https://osdn.net/projects/svardos/scm/svn/ containing: Since 07 Feb 2022 this repository is not maintained any longer. Please use http://svn.svardos.org/ instead. Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bt

[Svardos-users] ISO version "marker file"

Hi Mateusz, with a rolling release cycle it might sometimes be difficult to know from which medium a user installed his SvarDOS from. Maybe we could put some "marker file" to C:\ during install? I.e., 1) During the build process of ISOs and floppies create a file SVARDOS.LOG or SVDINFO.TXT contai

Re: [Svardos-users] SvarCOM ver 2022.0

Hi Mateusz, >> 1) SHELL= example in svarcom.txt is missing the /P option >> 2) RD as an alias for RMDIR is also missing > > Fixed and fixed. Thanks. > http://svn.svardos.org/comp.php?repname=SvarDOS&compare%5B%5D=%2F@637&compare%5B%5D=%2F@638 Great! :-) >> 3) I was unable to run a 2nd copy of S

Re: [Svardos-users] Me uploading packages to OSDN

Hi Mateusz, >> I already tried to convince myself yesterday, that being more patient is >> better for my health. > > I go as fast as I can, within the limited available time I have :) Mateusz, my impatience is *my* problem, not yours! :-) > I started migrating SvarDOS from OSDN to a dedicated s

Re: [Svardos-users] Me uploading packages to OSDN

Hi Mateusz, >>> 1. all packages are stored in SVN >> >> Um, typically one doesn't store blobs in SVN/Git. > > Git handles such blobs poorly, but svn is very good at it. The advantage Ah, didn't know. > would be that it becomes easy to keep the packages base synchronized > among more than 1 pe

Re: [Svardos-users] SvarCOM ver 2022.0

Hi Mateusz, >> If a file from a package already exists on C:, how could removing this >> file make installation of the new package version fail? > > The already-existing files check looks for collisions with files from > *other* packages, specifically *excluding* all files owned by the Excludi

Re: [Svardos-users] SvarCOM ver 2022.0

Hi Mateusz, > Today I have published a new version of SvarCOM, the future COMMAND.COM > shell of the SvarDOS distribution. SvarCOM version 2022.0 brings lots of > improvements: I did some quick testing and it seems to run stable for me. Great work! :-) A few notes: 1) SHELL= example in svarcom

Re: [Svardos-users] Me uploading packages to OSDN

Hi Mateusz, >> I would like to update or add several packages to the SvarDOS repo at >> OSDN. But I don't want to bother you every time with grabbing packages >> from my tmp web folder, uploading, rebuilding the index, ... >> >> Would you be fine, if I could do this? > > Very much in favor, yes!

[Svardos-users] pkg: placement of programs or games

Hi Mateusz, currently programs or games are placed to C:\, because that's where %DOSDIR%\CFG\PKG.CFG points to. But I don't like it that way. ;-) Yes, I can changed this by editing PKG.CFG, but did you know, that FAT16 has limit of 512 entries in the root directory of a drive? Maybe this is more

[Svardos-users] Me uploading packages to OSDN

Mateusz, I would like to update or add several packages to the SvarDOS repo at OSDN. But I don't want to bother you every time with grabbing packages from my tmp web folder, uploading, rebuilding the index, ... Would you be fine, if I could do this? If yes, how can we achieve this? 1) Do I alrea

Re: [Svardos-users] Big Trouble in Little China (= versioning or pkgnet checkup)

Hi Mateusz, >> 1) That's *what* "SvarDOS revisions" come in. >> Take it with a light grain of salt as English is not my native language, >> but I would replace "what" with "when" or change "what ... come in" to >> "what ... are for". >> 2) In the *even* that... >> A typo? Shouldn't that be "event"

Re: [Svardos-users] Completeness of 8086 compatibility?

Hi Mateusz, >> One last question: Will *you* test new releases of core packages in, >> e.g., pce-ibmpc, and update the table accordingly? > > I'm afraid not. My testing is limited to the tiny set of things/features > that I use myself, so any kind of extensive testing will have to be done > by

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