Jim, But as you know, the SVG spec defines a large number of possible values to test for with DOMImplementation, not just "do you have SVG?". So ideally we should be able to test for the language features we want, without using hacks (sorry, I mean heuristic methods).
Regards, Mark Mark Birbeck CEO x-port.net Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232 w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/ b: http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/ Download our XForms processor from http://www.formsPlayer.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ley > Sent: 02 August 2005 11:16 > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Re: Detect native SVG support > > > "Jonathan Watt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Mark, > > > > You're quite right of course. This would be the *real* way > to do it, > > and Mozilla happily returns true for both tests. > > BUG! It should not return true for either, as it has not > implemented either, I'll raise a bug when I have some > internet access... > > > Opera doesn't support > > scripting of SVG (yet) I believe, so the test won't work > for it, but > > as far as *script* testing goes this is definately the way to do it. > > Definately not, no user agent should be returning true for > DOMImplementation tests unless they have actually implemented > the specification - ie their implementation meets all the > conformance requirements, since such a beast is unlikely to > exist in our lifetimes, we should not bother testing for it, > and UA's returning true prematurely has already made the > tests useless as it will be no discriminator even if it does > exist one day. > > As you've shown heuristic methods can be used, and these are > much more useful as they can just test the features of the > language that we actually use, it doesn't matter to me if > you've not authored some feature if I don't actually use it. > > Cheers, > > Jim. > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hts36l6/M=362131.6882499.7 > 825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1706030389:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122992505 > /A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.org > ">Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job) Welcome to > the Sweet Life - brought to you by One Economy</a>.</font> > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------~-> > > ----- > To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click > "edit my membership" > ---- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hnlqpn3/M=362131.6882499.7825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1706030389:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122993646/A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.org ">Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job) Welcome to the Sweet Life - brought to you by One Economy</a>.</font> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
