Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Ciao Reto Habe mir aufgrund Deines Hinweises mal die Website und die Preise angesehen. Wenn ich das zusammenrechne und den Umstand dazu nehme, dass ich noch extra für den Strom zahlen muss und an ISP keine grosse Auswahl besteht, dann ist die Colo nicht so interessant, wie die Angebote von

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Hi Bernd Thanks for your thoughts. Since the Rackspace is already limited, the 7201 or the 3825 will be a good solutions for us, since the only take 1 or 2 RU. I hope, that we don't will have to match ddos attacks (we wasn't attacked within the last 5 years), so hopefully, that isn't the point

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Hi, Bernd you are right, the 7201 and 3825 are CPU-based drive boxes, just like any network gear by Cisco. It is a bit the Cisco conception of network devices, isn't? However with 300 Mbit/s you can't do much against a big serious DDoS attack, either the peipes are filled and must be filtered.

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Alexandre Egger wrote: [..] However, IMHO DDoS attacks are just like spam, nobody can really pretend being able to stop them as of today. There is a semi-partial solution which will cost you some cash, like every other 'solution': anycast your network. (Thus you are doing your own ISP and in

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Jeoren, Anycast is an option, but as you said expensive, but worst than that, complex to maintain. On top of that, it requires skilled boys and their salaries will go up quite quickly or you leave some company to do it for you at a price, you probably do not want to afford, when you are a normal

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Alexandre Egger wrote: Jeoren, Anycast is an option, but as you said expensive, but worst than that, complex to maintain. On top of that, it requires skilled boys and their salaries will go up quite quickly or you leave some company to do it for you at a price, you probably do not want to

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
I wasn't giving any advices to you, obviously you don't need them ;) Other, I know we are a bit off-topic, sorry, but it's interesting topic, isn't? If you don't piss somebody or make them jealous they won't have a need to attack you either. Yes. However, sometimes you don't have the choice.

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Alexandre Egger wrote: I wasn't giving any advices to you, obviously you don't need them ;) Other, I know we are a bit off-topic, sorry, but it's interesting topic, isn't? Especially with the view that there are possibilities that ISPs get threatened and take hosted sites offline, discussing