[swinog] Pro / Contra Backup MX?

2012-05-24 Thread Benoit Panizzon
Heya Swinog We have business customers with an own mailservers asking us to provide a backup MX for their mailserver. Usualy we deny such request, because such a backup MX would bounce all spam which cannot be relayed, and anyway, the sending server usualy queues the email usualy about the same

[swinog] Pro / Contra Smarthosting

2012-05-24 Thread Benoit Panizzon
Heya Another one on about the same topic. Business Customer with own Mailserver. They ofter want to know, which of our mailservers they can use as smarthost. We usualy tell them, that they operate an own fully connected mailserver which does not need any smarthost to deliver email to the world

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Backup MX?

2012-05-24 Thread Oliver Schad
On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:55:04 +0200 Benoit Panizzon wrote: > We have business customers with an own mailservers asking us to > provide a backup MX for their mailserver. > Usualy we deny such request, because such a backup MX would bounce > all spam which cannot be relayed, and anyway, the sending

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Smarthosting

2012-05-24 Thread Oliver Schad
On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:07:58 +0200 Benoit Panizzon wrote: > Business Customer with own Mailserver. They ofter want to know, which > of our mailservers they can use as smarthost. We usualy tell them, > that they operate an own fully connected mailserver which does not > need any smarthost to deliv

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Backup MX?

2012-05-24 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2012-05-24 16:55 , Benoit Panizzon wrote: > Heya Swinog > > We have business customers with an own mailservers asking us to provide a > backup MX for their mailserver. > Usualy we deny such request, because such a backup MX would bounce all spam > which cannot be relayed, and anyway, the send

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Smarthosting

2012-05-24 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2012-05-24 17:07 , Benoit Panizzon wrote: > Heya > > Another one on about the same topic. > > Business Customer with own Mailserver. They ofter want to know, which of our > mailservers they can use as smarthost. We usualy tell them, that they operate > an own fully connected mailserver which

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Backup MX?

2012-05-24 Thread Fabian Wenk
Hello Benoit On 24.05.2012 16:55, Benoit Panizzon wrote: We have business customers with an own mailservers asking us to provide a backup MX for their mailserver. Usualy we deny such request, because such a backup MX would bounce all spam which cannot be relayed, and anyway, the sending server u

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Smarthosting

2012-05-24 Thread Fabian Wenk
Hello Benoit On 24.05.2012 17:07, Benoit Panizzon wrote: Some do not agree. The reasons the tell us are: - It Tech XY has told them that sending via a smarthost is much more reliable. And the customer is loosing the possibility to check on his own, if an e-mail has been delivered or is still

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Backup MX?

2012-05-24 Thread Matthias Geiser
Hi Benoit, On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 04:55:04PM +0200, Benoit Panizzon wrote: > We have business customers with an own mailservers asking us to provide a > backup MX for their mailserver. I'm not working for an ISP but for company helping to implement business customers to set up their own MX. I a

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Backup MX?

2012-05-24 Thread Viktor Steinmann
Heya Benoit Here's the view from a Business customer, who used to work for ISPs: > - Why would business customers _need_ their ISP to operate a backup MX for them? - If the customer is multihomed, there's almost no need for this. One exception: Customer wants to catch possible misconfigurati