Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:00:30 +0100, Arnold Nipper wrote: I did reply to this just for "fun" and nothing else. > Iirc Wolfgang's presentation does not say that you you have to buy > DE-CIX services, neither does it say that you have to peer with > everyone. Doesn't it? I am not saying anything o

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Arnold Nipper
On 22.11.2009 19:51 Alexandre Egger wrote > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:42:32 +0100, Per Jessen > wrote: >> "dress well to sign better contracts" - it's not bad advice. >> >> >> /Per > > Per, I agree. But I was using this as metaphor that obviously a very > expensive brand will tell you to buy the

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:42:32 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > "dress well to sign better contracts" - it's not bad advice. > > > /Per Per, I agree. But I was using this as metaphor that obviously a very expensive brand will tell you to buy their clothes to do it better just as a brand of car would t

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Alexandre Egger wrote: > By the way, that comes straight from DECIX people. Remind me that is > DECIX? ;) That would be silly if they wouldn't try to sell their > services undirectly in some ways... To me it sounds a but like would > if it would be some brand of class clothes saying "dress well to

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Hey Arnold, > Maybe reading, understanding and acting along > http://www.denog.de/pdf/004-Tremmel-Attractive_for_Peering.pdf does help > ;-) Some advices are good, other are senseless to me. By the way, that comes straight from DECIX people. Remind me that is DECIX? ;) That would be silly if the

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-21 Diskussionsfäden Arnold Nipper
On 19.11.2009 13:09 Bernd SPIESS wrote >> However, I am quite sure that even bureaucrat companies can do it >> quicker than years if their peering policy is not too weird (ok I'm >> exlcuding a lot of 4 digit ASses :) > > i can assure you, you are wrong :-) at vienna vix it takes about one > year

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-21 Diskussionsfäden Arnold Nipper
On 19.11.2009 10:50 Fredy Kuenzler wrote > Alexandre Egger schrieb: >> Could anyone responsible for the peering at Init7 (AS13030) contact me in >> directly off-list. >> >> We keep trying to reach your NOC by email with no results :( > > you are on the pending request list ... > Maybe reading

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler
Alexandre Egger schrieb: > This being said, here is a tip how to get faster peering: > http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/816-Der-charmanteste-Peering-Request.html > (not to mention, it's Fredy's log :) > > Would a pie help Fredy? :) yes but only if it doesn't contain any raisins :-P F. __

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:09:03 +0100, Bernd SPIESS wrote: > i can assure you, you are wrong :-) > at vienna vix it takes about one year to have an answer from everbody. > it took about 2 years at milano and about 15 rounds of asking to have a > yes+session or no from everyone > de-cix seems to be t

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Bernd SPIESS
> However, I am quite sure that even bureaucrat companies can do it quicker > than years if their peering policy is not too weird (ok I'm exlcuding a lot > of 4 digit ASses :) i can assure you, you are wrong :-) at vienna vix it takes about one year to have an answer from everbody. it took about

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Hello Fredy, Thanks for reply. > you are on the pending request list ... We never had even an acknowledgement message. One can wonder if the request is gone in the bit bucket :-) > and yes the list is long, I'm afraid. So please be patient (it sometimes > takes years to get a peer)... I can be

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler
Hi Alexandre, Alexandre Egger schrieb: > Could anyone responsible for the peering at Init7 (AS13030) contact me in > directly off-list. > > We keep trying to reach your NOC by email with no results :( you are on the pending request list ... On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:57:26 +0100, Alexandre Egger

[swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-18 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Hi, Could anyone responsible for the peering at Init7 (AS13030) contact me in directly off-list. We keep trying to reach your NOC by email with no results :( Best regards, Alexandre -- Alexandre Egger Neocarrier Communications LTD 311, SHOREHAM STREET S2 4FA SHEFFIELD United Kingdom E : a.