[swinog] SDSL ISPs in Geneva

2007-03-16 Diskussionsfäden A. Uk / dataway GmbH
ISPs who offer SDSL connections (5 to 10 Mbit/s) in Geneva are invited to contact me off-list. Please state budgetary pricing for 5 to 10 Mb/s. Thank you Anthony -- | Anthony Uk| dataway GmbH | Tel. +41 44 299 9988 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Hohlstrasse 216 | Fax

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-29 Diskussionsfäden Daniel G. Kluge
On Aug 28, 2006, at 12:09 PM, ueli heuer wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:00:33 +0200 Marcel Prisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Manuel Wenger wrote: We have a pair of Tahoe with about 4.8M per pair, and when I asked the Swisscom guy if it was OK, he told me that as we rented the line, we could

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-29 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler
Xaver Aerni schrieb: I think the Traffic is a bigger Problem... I must make a line from a "little Kaff" to a "littlerer Kaff" (wo sich Hase und Fuchs gute Nacht wünschen...) The distance is on air 12 km... on Cable is i think till 10 times more... This is the Problem... On this distance I'm happ

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-29 Diskussionsfäden Xaver Aerni
7;m happy when I have the normal 1.8 mb on SDSL or 4 MB on Swisslink Data... The 3. way if Fredy has a 10 MB Line on this "Käffer"... - Original Message - From: "Lukas Beeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [swinog]

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-28 Diskussionsfäden ueli heuer
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:00:33 +0200 Marcel Prisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manuel Wenger wrote: > > We have a pair of Tahoe with about 4.8M per pair, and when I asked the > Swisscom guy if it was OK, he told me that as we rented the line, we > could put anything we wanted on it ... hmm, so yo

Re: R: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-28 Diskussionsfäden Marcel Prisi
Manuel Wenger wrote: Michel Renfer wrote: AFAIK they use multiple pairs... You're right, for 6M and 8M they use multiple pairs, but for 4M they use 1 pair (which is > 2.3M). Therefore this would be illegal according to Swisscom spectrum management... Or not? We have a pair of Tahoe with abou

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-28 Diskussionsfäden Daniel Lorch
Hi > Depending on your budget and application, you can use two Linux > or *BSD based machines with some SDSL Bridges (e.G. ZyXEL), [..] Here's some information on how to do this with GNU/Linux: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.loadshare.html Daniel ___

R: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-28 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Wenger
Michel Renfer wrote: > AFAIK they use multiple pairs... You're right, for 6M and 8M they use multiple pairs, but for 4M they use 1 pair (which is > 2.3M). Therefore this would be illegal according to Swisscom spectrum management... Or not? -Manuel ___ s

RE: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-28 Diskussionsfäden Bangerter, Markus
Hi If the equipment on both sides is under your (administrative) control You can make use of multilink-ppp over those 2 sdsl-linese to aggregate both physical links to one logical links. We did this years ago with leased-lines ... Regards, Markus ___

RE: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Michel Renfer
AFAIK they use multiple pairs... cheers, michel > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel Wenger > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:04 PM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: R: [swinog] SDSL > > Andre Oppermann

Re: R: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Kirill Ponazdyr
> Do you mean Cablecom is currently illegal if it is offering copper > G.SHDSL lines doing 8M on 2 wires? > > -Manuel You mean 2 pairs? G.SHDSL currently tops out at 4.8mbit per copper pair/loop. Actually I also heard about Cablecom offering 4/8mbps lines on 1/2 copper pairs. Not sure if this is

R: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Wenger
Andre Oppermann wrote: > Unfortunatly everything doing more than 2.3Mbit/s per copper > pair is currently not allowed by Swisscom spectrum management. Do you mean Cablecom is currently illegal if it is offering copper G.SHDSL lines doing 8M on 2 wires? -Manuel ___

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Nik Hug
I didn't knew that. Well the worst problem, if you had a bug with your 2.3+ Mb equipement, would be that you won't get any support of Swisscom on your copper pair if you ask then for ... Right ? nope - you won't get support from SCM anyway for your equipment. bandwidth/line-quality isn't g

RE: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Kurt A. Schumacher
or limited to these 2.3Mbps? Thank you, -Kurt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Oppermann Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:42 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] SDSL ___ swinog mail

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Will van Gulik
Woups, I didn't knew that. Well the worst problem, if you had a bug with your 2.3+ Mb equipement, would be that you won't get any support of Swisscom on your copper pair if you ask then for ... Right ? Andre Oppermann wrote: Nik Hug wrote: By the way, I'd be curious if there are other pr

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Andre Oppermann
Nik Hug wrote: By the way, I'd be curious if there are other products that can achieve that performance on a copper pair ... there are a lot of others zhone (former: paradyne and nettonet) actelis Unfortunatly everything doing more than 2.3Mbit/s per copper pair is currently not allowed by

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Nik Hug
By the way, I'd be curious if there are other products that can achieve that performance on a copper pair ... there are a lot of others zhone (former: paradyne and nettonet) actelis regards nik ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http:/

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Will van Gulik
Depending on the distance you have between the two points, you can use some sdsl modems that are supposed to reach 4 or 5 mb. Over 2 pairs you can reach 9 mb ... I Guess Tahoe have some that does that, don't know about the others ... By the way, I'd be curious if there are other products that

Re: [swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Lukas Beeler
* Xaver Aerni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >I'm working on a Projekt we are needing a Line for ca 3 Mbit. Is it >possible to multiplex 2 SDSL Lines to a 3 Mbit Line... that we have >3.6 Mbits > >We don't use Internet Connect we must only connect two Points. That's easily possible, if you

[swinog] SDSL

2006-08-27 Diskussionsfäden Xaver Aerni
I'm working on a Projekt we are needing a Line for ca 3 Mbit. Is it possible to multiplex 2 SDSL Lines to a 3 Mbit Line... that we have 3.6 Mbits   We don't use Internet Connect we must only connect two Points.   Greetings   X. Aerni ___ swinog mai

[swinog] sdsl + isdn backup

2006-01-19 Diskussionsfäden Glogger Steven
hi all i'm just wondering what you guys are using for bbcs sdsl lines for which customers are ordering also isdn backup. currently we're using for cheaper solutions a zyxel 791/792 with an external isdn TA (omni.net D/omni.net lite) and as a a more expensive solution a modular cisco router with i