I found just following article in german only (I think you'll find it soon in
french too):
http://www.20min.ch/news/wirtschaft/story/25685913
Breitband viel zu teuer
Der Breitbandmarkt in der Schweizer Telekommunikation ist 2004 zwar stark
gewachsen. Die Konsumenten profitierten aber weder
On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 20:38 +0200, ueli heuer wrote:
> I found just following article in german only (I think you'll find it soon in
> french too):
>
> http://www.20min.ch/news/wirtschaft/story/25685913
>
>
> Breitband viel zu teuer
Ehm, but is there anything that is not more expensive in .ch
Hey all,
I donĀ“t think that the solution for everything is to open the last mile for
everyone. OK, every provider would start with more "krasse" promotions. They
wouldn't only throw the router behind you but also the whole PC, hub, firewall
and a all-included trip to your favorite beer & beach
Hello,
> And innovations.. Please :) In one of the last "Netzwoche" sunrise was
> asked to say which kind of innovations the would launch if they would
> have the last mile and the answer was something like "ahem.. what was
> the question again?"
>
> Just my 5 cents for this evening but I would
Jean-Pierre Schwickerath wrote:
> I lived in Germany for the last years and the big different from the
> consumer side is that in Germany you have tons of different offers you
> can order. And most of them have different prices, so in fact if you
> decide to get a broadbast connection you start to
Andre Oppermann wrote:
100% too. That leaves 17.4% for the ISP to cover all his costs
including Internet bandwidth, investments for routers, helpdesk,
I think that's a good point. The ISP has to cover the Bandwith costs...
I think my provider is not too happy with me either - I have about 2-
From: "Andre Oppermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[..]
> 100% too. That leaves 17.4% for the ISP to cover all his costs
> including Internet bandwidth, investments for routers, helpdesk,
> admin, billing and so on...
[..]
and don't forget the debitor-risk! It's a typical consumer product and so at
lea
Hello Nik!
I agree with you, but this is normal in a market where you have to buy from
suppliers. If you are selling "Kopfsalat" on the "Wochenmarkt", you have to
pay the your supplier anyway, no matter if sou sold everything to the normal
retail price.
Sad, but true - what does not mean, th
Tobias Goeller wrote:
>
> Andre Oppermann wrote:
> > 100% too. That leaves 17.4% for the ISP to cover all his costs
> > including Internet bandwidth, investments for routers, helpdesk,
>
> I think that's a good point. The ISP has to cover the Bandwith costs...
> I think my provider is not too ha
Nik Hug wrote:
>
> From: "Andre Oppermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> [..]
> > 100% too. That leaves 17.4% for the ISP to cover all his costs
> > including Internet bandwidth, investments for routers, helpdesk,
> > admin, billing and so on...
> [..]
>
> and don't forget the debitor-risk! It's a ty
> However the sad thing is no matter how low the wholesale price for the
> ISP will be, there is always one approaching that price plus a few cents.
> This in turn forces the other ISPs to lower their prices too and again
> nobody has a useful margin again.
Perhaps its time to rise the price again
Andre Oppermann wrote:
Tobias Goeller wrote:
Andre Oppermann wrote:
100% too. That leaves 17.4% for the ISP to cover all his costs
including Internet bandwidth, investments for routers, helpdesk,
I think that's a good point. The ISP has to cover the Bandwith costs...
I think my provider is
Andre Oppermann wrote:
No, it doesn't reflect the real expenses of the ISPs. It's too low
and no ISP makes a dime on the standard ADSL Offer at those prices.
Swisscom on the other makes a lot of money on the ADSL lines they
resell to the ISPs. Approximatly 75% of the enduser price go to
Swis
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