Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Derek Neighbors
Jimmie Houchin said: If I read the Sword/JSword source code and from that design/information write (port would be accurate?) classes, methods, etc. in Squeak to process Sword Modules would I be obligated to also use the GPL? Copyrighted works are copyrighted works. I guess it might be best

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Yes, I understand the GPL. In many instances I believe it is often the better license. I greatly appreciate the GPL in regard to my Linux OS. I also think it is great that you distribute WEB as Public Domain. I would do likewise if I ever publish like material. When I talk about the viral

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Derek Neighbors wrote: Jimmie Houchin said: If I read the Sword/JSword source code and from that design/information write (port would be accurate?) classes, methods, etc. in Squeak to process Sword Modules would I be obligated to also use the GPL? Copyrighted works are copyrighted works. I

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Little
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: If I read the Sword/JSword source code and from that design/information write (port would be accurate?) classes, methods, etc. in Squeak to process Sword Modules would I be obligated to also use the GPL? If you write your own classes in Squeak to

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Chris Little wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: If I read the Sword/JSword source code and from that design/information write (port would be accurate?) classes, methods, etc. in Squeak to process Sword Modules would I be obligated to also use the GPL? If you write your own

[sword-devel] Website

2003-01-17 Thread Daniel Adams
Umm, is anyone else having trouble getting to http://www.crosswire.org? My computer had crashed and I have been reinstalling many of my modules, including a desire to get back the tester modules that I have been helping with from time to time, but I haven't been able to get to the website, but I

Re: [sword-devel] Website

2003-01-17 Thread David Woods
I had trouble getting into http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ last night - got Apache/Tomcat screen. Trying to get into http://www.crosswire.org/ today gives me a 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable, plus the screen says there is a 500 Internal Server Error. David - Original Message -

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Little
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: If you want to use Sword as a library of any sort (linked statically or dynamically) it requires that your work be GPL since we are not LGPL licensed. Does this mean I could not use the Sword libraries as a plugin? Would this also affect

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Joe Walker
Chris Little wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: If I read the Sword/JSword source code and from that design/information write (port would be accurate?) classes, methods, etc. in Squeak to process Sword Modules would I be obligated to also use the GPL? If you write

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Joe Walker
My understanding is that all the GPL obliges you to do is release the code under GPL. It does not stop you releasing it under the GPL AND another MIT/BSD style license (so long as there is no ad. clause conflict) Many projects like Mozilla and MySQL (IIRC) are released under 2 licences. So if

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Derek Neighbors
Joe Walker said: My understanding is that all the GPL obliges you to do is release the code under GPL. It does not stop you releasing it under the GPL AND another MIT/BSD style license (so long as there is no ad. clause conflict) Many projects like Mozilla and MySQL (IIRC) are released under

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Joe Walker wrote: My understanding is that all the GPL obliges you to do is release the code under GPL. It does not stop you releasing it under the GPL AND another MIT/BSD style license (so long as there is no ad. clause conflict) Many projects like Mozilla and MySQL (IIRC) are released under 2

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Little
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Joe Walker wrote: If you write your own classes in Squeak to read Sword modules, you're not incorporating Sword GPL code into your work. If you read our code to see how we do it and then write your own code to perform the same functions, you're not violating our

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Chris Little wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: If you want to use Sword as a library of any sort (linked statically or dynamically) it requires that your work be GPL since we are not LGPL licensed. Does this mean I could not use the Sword libraries as a plugin? Would this also

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Little
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: I do fully desire to be able to use OSIS documents. To me Sword project is the most open Bible software availalbe. This is why I chose this project. Texts wise, what would I miss out on by going an OSIS route? Would there be documents

Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-17 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Chris Little wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: I do fully desire to be able to use OSIS documents. To me Sword project is the most open Bible software availalbe. This is why I chose this project. Texts wise, what would I miss out on by going an OSIS route? Would there be

[sword-devel] Hebrew and Desgin :o)

2003-01-17 Thread Avihai.H
Shalom to everyone :o) 1) A few months ago I have asked the source of HebModern because I want to fix a lot of typing/scanning mistakes, but no one gave it to me - what should we do? 2) Does the new Sword release can be fully translated into Hebrew? Last time I tried

[sword-devel] GerLutherpredigten module updated

2003-01-17 Thread Joachim Ansorg
Hi! I posted an update to the collection of the Martin Luther sermons collection. Since the old data was there for a month and nobody posted problems I'll make the new version next week official if nobody complains. Joachim -- Joachim Ansorg www.bibletime.info www.ansorgs.de

[sword-devel] Copyrights and derivative works

2003-01-17 Thread Joel Mawhorter
Hi everyone, While the topics of copyrights and derivative works are fresh on everyone's mind I thought I would ask a question. Does anyone know what the U.S. laws are regarding producing a derative work based on a copyrighted work? For example, could I create a NIV concordence without the

Re: [sword-devel] Copyrights and derivative works

2003-01-17 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 08:56 PM 1/17/2003 -0800, Joel Mawhorter wrote: ...could I create a NIV concordence without the permission of the IBS? No. See: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ14.html#who . Jerry ___ sword-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [sword-devel] Copyrights and derivative works

2003-01-17 Thread Joel Mawhorter
So according to U.S. law I can't create a derivative work but is a concordence really a derative work? It certainly is very different from the Bible text it is based on. In its simplest form it is just a listing of references for verses that contain a given word. To me that doesn't seem like a

Re: [sword-devel] Copyrights and derivative works

2003-01-17 Thread Patrick Narkinsky
Thus spake Jerry Hastings : At 08:56 PM 1/17/2003 -0800, Joel Mawhorter wrote: ...could I create a NIV concordence without the permission of the IBS? No. See: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ14.html#who . Actually, this would probably be okay. (I think, IANAL) In general, databases of

Re: [sword-devel] Copyrights and derivative works

2003-01-17 Thread David Burry
An index/concordance is not a derivative work because it's completely automated to create it, in the words of the URL below purely mechanical task with no element of editorial selection therefore not copyrightable as a separate derivative work... however... because it's purely mechanical and not a