Re: [sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Chris Little wrote: > Should the NASB be presented with verse-per-line layout (e.g. via a > at the end of each verse)? I think so, because that is the way the translators intended for it to be presented, and therefore how they punctuated it. > Does anyone have a printed edition that > uses a

Re: [sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone have a printed edition that uses a paragraphed > presentation? Not that I consider Crosswalk much of a source -- I can show you some really impressively bad examples of text rendering in Crosswalk's NASB -- but they have paragraph-formatted te

Re: [sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: > On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > >> DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Another difficulty in identifying quotations is continuation marks. >>> (OSIS provides for this.) I hear that >>> this varies by language. But in English when a quote spans paragr

Re: [sword-devel] FYI, Codex Sinaiticus going online

2008-07-23 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Not Sword-specific, but... > > http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/ > The oldest (1600yrs) complete Bible to survive to the modern day. Another nice project that has the Codex Sinaiticus (albeit as scans from a printed facsimile with notes rather than scans of the ms) is h

Re: [sword-devel] iPhone dev (was: Re: MacSword2 early dev)

2008-07-23 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My perspective on a Sword port/frontend is that we have essentially two > alternatives. There is nothing about the iPhone SDK that specifically > precludes GPL software--rather the iPhone SDK NDA precludes any kind of > code

Re: [sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread DM Smith
On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Another difficulty in identifying quotations is continuation marks. >> (OSIS provides for this.) I hear that >> this varies by language. But in English when a quote spans paragraphs >> the start of each

Re: [sword-devel] MacSword2 early dev

2008-07-23 Thread Matt Reimer
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Matt Reimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Manfred, >>> >>> Where would the source for it be? I remember you w

[sword-devel] iPhone dev (was: Re: MacSword2 early dev)

2008-07-23 Thread Chris Little
My perspective on a Sword port/frontend is that we have essentially two alternatives. There is nothing about the iPhone SDK that specifically precludes GPL software--rather the iPhone SDK NDA precludes any kind of code sharing. I have to hope that Apple will expire the NDA and make iPhone SDK d

[sword-devel] Windows UI black JPEG displays

2008-07-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I mentioned before that sometimes (irregularly) *.jpg images that are part of modules do not display correctly. Here is a screenshot of this happening to me today: http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../WinSword-black-jpg.png That module's images are now all *.jpg. As you can see, it's not even consist

Re: [sword-devel] MacSword2 early dev

2008-07-23 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Matt Reimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Manfred, >> >> Where would the source for it be? I remember you were working on >> pulling out just an Obj-C wrapper for the SWORD library which w

Re: [sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another difficulty in identifying quotations is continuation marks. > (OSIS provides for this.) I hear that > this varies by language. But in English when a quote spans paragraphs > the start of each paragraph in the quote starts with a " and do not end >

Re: [sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Add into all of this the difficulty of language/locale dependent > quotation systems and I think that many module encoders will just do #4. Based on the mental gymnastics required for all that, I can't imagine why anyone would bother with anything other than

Re: [sword-devel] MacSword2 early dev

2008-07-23 Thread Matt Reimer
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manfred, > > Where would the source for it be? I remember you were working on > pulling out just an Obj-C wrapper for the SWORD library which we had > talked about as being possibly useful for working on the iPhone. How >

Re: [sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread DM Smith
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > David Haslam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Is this supported by any of the Sword front-ends? >> > > GnomeSword does not. > > I would expect only that any given module should be encoded using > whatever quotation scheme is suitable to its language. I certainly >

Re: [sword-devel] MacSword2 early dev

2008-07-23 Thread Greg Hellings
Manfred, Where would the source for it be? I remember you were working on pulling out just an Obj-C wrapper for the SWORD library which we had talked about as being possibly useful for working on the iPhone. How mature is that wrapper at this point, and how can I locate and download it? I'm onc

Re: [sword-devel] translator-serbian

2008-07-23 Thread David Haslam
There are several Serbian Bibles as user made e-Sword modules posted by dvlatko at http://www.esnips.com/profile/ccea52ec-52e0-47b5-b202-db0c4749955d http://www.esnips.com/profile/ccea52ec-52e0-47b5-b202-db0c4749955d At least one of these Serbian translations is old enough to be public domain. S

[sword-devel] Ventura RTF to OSIS

2008-07-23 Thread Daniel Owens
Does anyone have experience with converting Ventura-typeset Bibles? I have some RTF files which were exported from Ventura, and I want to convert them to OSIS to create a Sword module. I started work on an XSLT stylesheet to export from OpenOffice to USFM and from there to go to OSIS, but I tho

[sword-devel] FYI, Codex Sinaiticus going online

2008-07-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Not Sword-specific, but... http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/ The oldest (1600yrs) complete Bible to survive to the modern day. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to un

Re: [sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is this supported by any of the Sword front-ends? GnomeSword does not. I would expect only that any given module should be encoded using whatever quotation scheme is suitable to its language. I certainly don't expect the front ends to perform dynamic su

[sword-devel] Quotation mark, non-English usage?

2008-07-23 Thread David Haslam
What attention has been given to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark%2C_non-English_usage quotation mark, non-English usage ? Is this supported by any of the Sword front-ends? Is there a page in the Crosswire wiki that deals with this topic? -- David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] MacSword2 early dev

2008-07-23 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Manfred, please know you are more than welcome to space and services on crosswire proper, if we haven't yet set things up for you. -Troy. Manfred Bergmann wrote: > Sorry, removed from SourceForge because MacUpdate and Versiontracker > do automatic release scanning. > Trying to find an

Re: [sword-devel] MacSword2 early dev

2008-07-23 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Sorry, removed from SourceForge because MacUpdate and Versiontracker do automatic release scanning. Trying to find another place to distribute development versions. Manfred Am 22.07.2008 um 22:07 schrieb Manfred Bergmann: > Hi. > > For all of you that are curious. > A very early development

[sword-devel] MacSword2 early dev

2008-07-23 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi. For all of you that are curious. A very early development version of the next major release of MacSword has been released (at sourceforge). Mainly to get feedback actually. It shouldn't break any existing MacSword installation but use with care. Currently only a single window bible view is