Replying to myself...
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm building the current SVN on my Mac and have the following issue -
> autogen.sh does not find libtoolize, but the autogen.sh script
> continues anyway, generating a configure script, but no Makefi
I'm building the current SVN on my Mac and have the following issue -
autogen.sh does not find libtoolize, but the autogen.sh script
continues anyway, generating a configure script, but no Makefile.in
because of missing ltmain.sh. Now, with Macports intsalled, I have
glibtoolize in my path, which
Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
> Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> ThML has value primarily as a way of incorporating materials from CCEL
>
> There are 30-odd ThML modules in my repository produced in the last ~18
> months -- on average, nearly a module every 2 weeks -- only 2 of which
> are CCE
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Since Chris already answered the second one - OSIS has the tag
>> - can we just add the osisRef-to-URI and be done with it? I've messed
>> around in the OSIS filters a bit with my mod2osis edits, and this
>> could eas
> Since Chris already answered the second one - OSIS has the tag
> - can we just add the osisRef-to-URI and be done with it? I've messed
> around in the OSIS filters a bit with my mod2osis edits, and this
> could easily be added to the logic in there in a few minutes. What
> other features do yo
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> None of this requires engine changes, but rather that we extend the
>> historical conceptual idea of a reference beyond bible:key.
>> This is a frontend change. Just as gnomesword decomposes a reference
>> from ThML swo
Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Like it or not, OSIS & TEI are the future for us.
I have no dislike for it in concept. I just don't want to use it much,
so long as I get less capability from it, for the work I need to do.
> ThML has value primarily as a way of incorporating materials
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Matthew Talbert wrote:
>>> Assuming that GnomeSword uses the stock HTMLHREF filters and assuming
>>> that they want to use the private protocol URIs for linking, then yes
>>> this would need to be added into the OSISHTML
Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
> Also, I know no reason why a module shouldn't have completely external-
> to-the-app http:// references, not just internal-to-other-docs refs.
> Can OSIS provide that kind of linkage? ThML can, and does, and I use
> it. (Recent gains with gnome_open_url() have me experi
> So it sounds to me that:
> The new alternate versification code should be moved to a branch (or create
> a 1.5.12 branch from 1.5.11) and then release 1.5.12 with:
> - Better TEI support
> - osisref links
> - OSISRuby
> - Other bug fixes (for a start, BPBible 0.4 binaries will ship with the
> pat
Matthew Talbert wrote:
>> Assuming that GnomeSword uses the stock HTMLHREF filters and assuming
>> that they want to use the private protocol URIs for linking, then yes
>> this would need to be added into the OSISHTMLHREF and TEIHTMLHREF.
>
> GnomeSword uses the stock HTMLREF filters. Why would
> So why can't sword:// be the method used?
I'm sorry I forgot that passagestudy was the internal uri format
___
sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org
http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
Instructions to unsubscribe/change
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Assuming that GnomeSword uses the stock HTMLHREF filters and assuming
> that they want to use the private protocol URIs for linking, then yes
> this would need to be added into the OSISHTMLHREF and TEIHTMLHREF.
>
> If it use
"Troy A. Griffitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I understand why Karl uses ThML-- because gnomesword supports it.
Troy, I'm sorry, but that's not correct, and that's not my point.
I use ThML because it provides what I need. Now. Fast. My newest
module, TrainTwelve, looks fine in BibleCS, t
> Assuming that GnomeSword uses the stock HTMLHREF filters and assuming
> that they want to use the private protocol URIs for linking, then yes
> this would need to be added into the OSISHTMLHREF and TEIHTMLHREF.
GnomeSword uses the stock HTMLREF filters. Why would they be there if
not to be used?
Matthew Talbert wrote:
>> Frontend developers simply need to be on the lookout for
>> osisRef="Josephus:Ant.1.8.2" and know how to handle that themselves.
>> That may simply entail converting it to > href="sword://Josephus/%2Ant%2F1%2F8%2F2"> in the case of GnomeSword.
>> (And the same for TEI: .
> Frontend developers simply need to be on the lookout for
> osisRef="Josephus:Ant.1.8.2" and know how to handle that themselves.
> That may simply entail converting it to href="sword://Josephus/%2Ant%2F1%2F8%2F2"> in the case of GnomeSword.
> (And the same for TEI: .
So the html filter will spit
[Sorry, I sent this earlier, but from the wrong address, so it didn't
get through, and may show up again if Troy lets it through the queue.]
Matthew Talbert wrote:
>> What really needs to be done, is to finalize how we are going to use
>> osisRefs.
>> I'd like to see modules being able to contain
[Sorry, I sent this earlier, but from the wrong address, so it didn't
get through, and may show up again if Troy lets it through the queue.]
Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
> Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> And what's worse, there exists a standard reference system for
>> Josephus, that we wou
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Jonathan Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> A few probably-abrasive (pre-apologies) comments on this thread.
>
> ...
>
>> support for external links:
>>
>> There is currently no pr
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few probably-abrasive (pre-apologies) comments on this thread.
...
> support for external links:
>
> There is currently no programmatic features in the engine which help or
> hinder external links. Historically th
A few probably-abrasive (pre-apologies) comments on this thread.
OSIS is not meant for display layout markup.
Since our engine supports multiple output formats, screen sizes, layout
methodologies, etc., our module data should not be marked up in display
layout markup.
I understand why Karl use
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Finally back from ETS/SBL and staying in the States for a while. Hope
> to devote quality/quantity time to SWORD stuff again starting in the
> very near future.
>
> a few comments on this thread:
>
> Frontends are wel
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I like the idea of scrolling past (or before) a chapter break in a
>> display window.
>
> I just thought I would mention that Gnomesword does exactly this. It
> shows one verse of context before and after the chapter, b
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The point I was making was not that you can't encode it, but you lose the
>> semantic significance of it. The user can tell that test was added,
>> but the program can't - unless that is the only way is ever used - whic
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > The point I was making was not that you can't encode it, but you lose the
> > semantic significance of it. The user can tell that test was
> added,
> > but the program can't - unless that is the only way is ever used
> I like the idea of scrolling past (or before) a chapter break in a
> display window.
I just thought I would mention that Gnomesword does exactly this. It
shows one verse of context before and after the chapter, but scrolling
to that verse causes the chapter to change either before or after.
Unfo
Finally back from ETS/SBL and staying in the States for a while. Hope
to devote quality/quantity time to SWORD stuff again starting in the
very near future.
a few comments on this thread:
Frontends are welcome to show context however they want. The engine
doesn't favour chapter context-- as
> The point I was making was not that you can't encode it, but you lose the
> semantic significance of it. The user can tell that test was added,
> but the program can't - unless that is the only way is ever used - which
> it isn't. If you use italic formatting for anything else, you have lost
> i
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Ben Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> None. Information is all relative to the context. You lose no
>> information if you encode printed KJV italics terms with , ,
>> or . It sti
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Ben Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:55 AM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I agree with some of the earlier posts that we need to formalize the
>> notion of sections and allow people to show a section at a time. This
>> can be do
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> None. Information is all relative to the context. You lose no
> information if you encode printed KJV italics terms with , ,
> or . It still means the exact same thing -
> the enclosed text was added by translators and
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:55 AM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't like all the interfaces that assume that I want an entire
> chapter at a time. Most times, I want specific verses. By default,
> BibleDesktop hides the Passage Sidebar. It give the ability to click
> on a passage and gr
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The advantage of this, I suppose, is that your cross-references could
>> be converted to OSIS refs later. The disadvantage would come if you
>> lose other information when encoding in OSIS, as Ben suggested.
>
> What in
On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Daniel Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sebastien Koechlin wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:50:38PM -0500, Ian Wagner wrote:
Have any of you used the Libronix Digital Library System
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > The advantage of this, I suppose, is that your cross-references could
> > be converted to OSIS refs later. The disadvantage would come if you
> > lose other information when encoding in OSIS, as Ben suggested.
>
> What
> The advantage of this, I suppose, is that your cross-references could
> be converted to OSIS refs later. The disadvantage would come if you
> lose other information when encoding in OSIS, as Ben suggested.
What information would I lose? I'm new at this, so that's an honest
question. The only fo
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Daniel Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sebastien Koechlin wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:50:38PM -0500, Ian Wagner wrote:
>>> Have any of you used the Libronix Digital Library System (previously
>>> known as Logos bible software)? They actually load up t
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What really needs to be done, is to finalize how we are going to use
>> osisRefs.
>> I'd like to see modules being able to contain some mapping from osis ids to
>> display names. I don't show the user Gen.2.2 in my appli
> What really needs to be done, is to finalize how we are going to use
> osisRefs.
> I'd like to see modules being able to contain some mapping from osis ids to
> display names. I don't show the user Gen.2.2 in my application (or
> /Gen/2/2), why should I show them Ant.1.8.2 or (/Ant/1/8/2)?
While
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Karl Kleinpaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> All you do is to convince me, again and again, not to generate OSIS.
>
> I absolutely do not care if it wouldn't pass muster "within an osisRef
> attribute." It passes muster NOW in ThML TODAY, because what I generate
>
Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And what's worse, there exists a standard reference system for
> Josephus, that we would probably want to use for linking to it...
> Ultimately, you would want to encode a link to the above reference as
> some text.
> Linking with that would require remaki
Ian Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Interesting. My dad is a pastor and he has been using Libronix since
> it was known as Logos back in the Windows 95 days. Unfortunately, the
> application is only single-platform at the moment so my dad has to run
> it in a VM since he is now a mac use
On Nov 25, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>
> Sebastien Koechlin wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:50:38PM -0500, Ian Wagner wrote:
>>> Have any of you used the Libronix Digital Library System (previously
>>> known as Logos bible software)? They actually load up the ENTIRE
>>> book
>>>
On Nov 24, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>
> Am 24.11.2008 um 18:50 schrieb Ian Wagner:
>
>> On Nov 24, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:04 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:05:28AM -0500, Ian Wagner wrote:
>
Sebastien Koechlin wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:50:38PM -0500, Ian Wagner wrote:
>> Have any of you used the Libronix Digital Library System (previously
>> known as Logos bible software)? They actually load up the ENTIRE book
>> (whether it be a bible or commentary or whatnot) so you ha
Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> BTW there are some weird dependencies which have crept into sword etc.
>
> E.g the diatheke will not install anymore without apache being
> installed. While use of the diatheke as CGI is obviously a possibility,
> I guess the majority of users simply use it on the commandl
Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I've tried to install GnomeSword on Ubuntu 8.10 using the apt-source
> of dominique.corbex.
> The GnomeSword package seems to be linked against a gnutls13 library
> which is not available there (only gnutls26 which has a higher version
> number).
> Any ideas
Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I've tried to install GnomeSword on Ubuntu 8.10 using the apt-source
> of dominique.corbex.
> The GnomeSword package seems to be linked against a gnutls13 library
> which is not available there (only gnutls26 which has a higher version
> number).
> Any ideas
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:50:38PM -0500, Ian Wagner wrote:
> Have any of you used the Libronix Digital Library System (previously
> known as Logos bible software)? They actually load up the ENTIRE book
> (whether it be a bible or commentary or whatnot) so you have a
> scrollbar indicator abo
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Eeli Kaikkonen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Jonathan Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> I'll add another con - the poor user has no consistent mental model.
>> They can have no way to guess why one time they get 3:1 - 4:2 one
>> time, and 2:5 - 4:27 another t
51 matches
Mail list logo
