Re: [sword-devel] lang processing (was: proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs)

2012-02-13 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi Troy, On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:19 AM, scribe...@gmail.com scr...@crosswire.orgwrote: Thanks for delineating the discussion, DM. I would certainly be in favor of discussing the possible enhancement to our filters (or import tools) for providing language span tags around segments of

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire News ain't that new!

2012-02-13 Thread Matej Cepl
On 11.2.2012 23:32, Jaak Ristioja wrote: There's even one dating October 23, 2006. Twice I've written about this issue in this mailing list wishing that they'd add news about new BibleTime releases... but no avail. I guess they are not kidding. :( And that Android thing? If you want to find on

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire News ain't that new!

2012-02-13 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi Matej, On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On 11.2.2012 23:32, Jaak Ristioja wrote: There's even one dating October 23, 2006. Twice I've written about this issue in this mailing list wishing that they'd add news about new BibleTime releases... but no

[sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread David Haslam
Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles for the two main testament divisions? div type=bookGroup ... /div or div type=x-testament ... /div The former is exemplified in http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles#Body The latter is exemplified in http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Tutorial#Text_Divisions

Re: [sword-devel] Support for linked verse range markers?

2012-02-13 Thread DM Smith
IMHO, there are two separate issues here. 1) Appropriate markers for a verse. 2) Lossiness of information in the construction of an OSIS Bible module. I'll answer the first: As you noted it is important for the verse markers to represent the range. (In the case of JSword it is even more

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Little
On 2/13/2012 6:13 AM, David Haslam wrote: Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles for the two main testament divisions? bookGroup is real OSIS (defined by the schema). x-testament isn't and shouldn't be used. It won't cause problems to use x-testament, but if you don't want to follow a standard,

Re: [sword-devel] Support for linked verse range markers?

2012-02-13 Thread David Haslam
Hi DM, Your reply is most helpful. The point about the size of the range is a good one. cf. The largest range I've come across to date is 12-83 in the Falam version from Myanmar Bibles. verse sID=Num.7.12-Num.7.83 n=12-83 osisID=Num.7.12 Num.7.13 Num.7.14 Num.7.15 Num.7.16 Num.7.17 Num.7.18

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread David Haslam
That being the case, it prompts the question, Why does mod2osis use type=x-testament ? i.e. when processing a module most probably made using imp2vs David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread DM Smith
On 02/13/2012 01:16 PM, David Haslam wrote: That being the case, it prompts the question, Why does mod2osis use type=x-testament ? I'm not really sure what the utility of mod2osis is at all. The transforms of ThML and GBF to OSIS are very incomplete. It is best when processing an OSIS module.

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 02/13/2012 01:16 PM, David Haslam wrote: That being the case, it prompts the question, Why does mod2osis use type=x-testament ? I'm not really sure what the utility of mod2osis is at all. The transforms of ThML and

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Greg, Please don't say you were ignored. I certainly didn't ignore you. Troy On 02/13/2012 07:51 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM, DM Smithdmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 02/13/2012 01:16 PM, David Haslam wrote: That being the case, it prompts the question, Why

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Greg, Please don't say you were ignored.  I certainly didn't ignore you. If you gave me write permissions to mod2osis.cpp then it escaped me. I remember us talking about my rewrite to use non-for loops as well as

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
The issues, if I can remember correctly, are deeper than the utility mod2osis, and adding lots of checks in mod2osis to account for all the other issues is only putting a bandaide on the problem. mod2osis should be a very simply utility. It's logic should be: set output format to OSIS grab

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: The issues, if I can remember correctly, are deeper than the utility mod2osis, and adding lots of checks in mod2osis to account for all the other issues is only putting a bandaide on the problem. mod2osis should be

[sword-devel] Cross-build Toolchain Files

2012-02-13 Thread Greg Hellings
For anyone who likes to cross-build from Linux into Windows (c'mon, I know you all love it...) I have added a pair of toolchain files to the engine which will work with either the MinGW packages I specifically built for SWORD support in Ubuntu or with SuSE's toolchain. It also works building with

Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Little
On 2/13/2012 10:16 AM, David Haslam wrote: That being the case, it prompts the question, Why does mod2osis use type=x-testament ? Use of x-testament indicates that the associated code originates from the period before the adoption of the bookGroup type by OSIS. --Chris