Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

2015-09-01 Thread Chris Burrell
It's the only supported protocol for jsword (step, and bible, ...) though I believe dm may have implemented ftp recently -Original Message- From: "Greg Hellings" Sent: ‎02/‎09/‎2015 04:20 To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Subject: Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

2015-09-01 Thread Greg Hellings
Why is HTTPS not supported? It's supported by the engine and by at least BibleTime and Xiphos AFAIK. --Greg On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson < kahunap...@ebible.org> wrote: > The main repository has been updated with revised modules with Strong's > numbers (5 of them).

[sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

2015-09-01 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Title: signature The main repository has been updated with revised modules with Strong's numbers (5 of them). The update is about markup and conf files, with no change to source text. Also, I used symbolic links to allow the /pub in the directory to be omitted. In ot

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread DM Smith
This assumes uni-directional use of an abbreviation. Once it is used for input, that is bi-directional, given by a user by typing or otherwise, it has a problem. > On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson > wrote: > > The uniqueness of an abbreviation is not required as long as

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
The uniqueness of an abbreviation is not required as long as you never try to look up which module corresponds to that abbreviation. If all you do is use the abbreviation as a short way to display which text is selected, i.e. just looking up the abbreviation given

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
On 09/01/2015 12:19 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: I am in the middle of adding code to Xiphos that [a] ignores Abbreviation when it collides with an existing real module name, and [b] provides for the user to change Abbreviation at any time, which valu

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Tue, 2015-09-01 at 18:19 -0400, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > On 09/01/2015 09:29 AM, DM Smith wrote: > > Having Abbreviation=KJV for a Thai module is clearly not the > > intent. To use it within a repo with uniqueness by language is > > entirely a bad idea. > I'm glad I didn't misunderstand this a

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/01/2015 09:29 AM, DM Smith wrote: > Having Abbreviation=KJV for a Thai module is clearly not the intent. To use > it within a repo with uniqueness by language is entirely a bad idea. I'm glad I didn't misunderstand this aspect. > Collisions are bad. There is always some nook or cranny in the

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Tue, 2015-09-01 at 16:47 -0400, David > > So as a new frontend developer I'm confused. What is the purpose of > the Abbreviation conf entry and why world I want to use it over > module name which should already be shortish (at least compared to > title)? If we could get it right then the A

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread DM Smith
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:47 PM, David Judah's Shadow Blue > wrote: > > > So as a new frontend developer I'm confused. What is the purpose of the > Abbreviation conf entry and why world I want to use it over module name which > should already be shortish (at least compared to title)? The [name

Re: [sword-devel] testing for diacritics

2015-09-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Fri, 2015-08-28 at 14:13 -0400, Ryan wrote: > On Thu, 2015-08-27 at 23:22 +0100, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > Is there a clever and reliable way one could test in a given OSIS > > text > > to see whether it contains diacritically enhanced texts or not? > > Perl, > > preferably. > > > > Specif

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread David "Judah's Shadow" Blue
On September 1, 2015 3:59:09 PM EDT, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: >On 08/31/2015 10:26 PM, David Haslam wrote: > >Yesterday, I added a note in the wiki page: >http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#cite_note-1 1. We >strongly advise to avoid using an Abbreviation that's identical

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
On 08/31/2015 10:26 PM, David Haslam wrote: Yesterday, I added a note in the wiki page: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#cite_note-1 1. We strongly advise to avoid using an Abbreviation that's identical to the ModName or Abbreviation of any other

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-09-01 Thread DM Smith
FYI: The GlobalOptionFilters are names of code that are called in the order that they appear. — DM > On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson > wrote: > > On 08/30/2015 10:26 PM, David Haslam wrote: >> We should document this better in the wiki page. >> >> Currently there is ju

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-09-01 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
On 08/30/2015 10:26 PM, David Haslam wrote: We should document this better in the wiki page. Currently there is just a brief note attached to OSISLemma. Must precede OSISStrongs. See http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#cite_ref-2 What is the backgr

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread DM Smith
I forget what JSword and BD do now but it is different than back then. I’m pretty sure that Description doesn’t come into play anymore. — DM > On Sep 1, 2015, at 12:47 PM, David Haslam wrote: > > Hi DM, > > Yep - collisions are bad. > > I recall several years ago we had a conversation about

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread David Haslam
Hi DM, Yep - collisions are bad. I recall several years ago we had a conversation about having two versions of the same module in Bible Desktop, and being informed that there was a further requirement that the Description strings also had to be different. I don't think we ever documented this in

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread DM Smith
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-09-01 at 01:26 -0700, David Haslam wrote: >> Yesterday, I added a note in the wiki page: >> >> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#cite_note-1 >> >> 1. We strongly advise to avoid using an Abbreviation that's

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Tue, 2015-09-01 at 01:26 -0700, David Haslam wrote: > Yesterday, I added a note in the wiki page: > > http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#cite_note-1 > > 1. We strongly advise to avoid using an Abbreviation that's identical > to the > ModName or Abbreviation of any other module.

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread David Haslam
Yesterday, I added a note in the wiki page: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#cite_note-1 1. We strongly advise to avoid using an Abbreviation that's identical to the ModName or Abbreviation of any other module. It only leads to confusion, and may have unexpected consequences for

Re: [sword-devel] Lemmas, Strongs & Morph

2015-09-01 Thread David Haslam
Thanks for the explanation. I looked at the four screenshots for TischMorph. How the engine handles the OSIS filters needs investigating by the SWORD developers. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Lemmas-Strongs-Morph-tp4655147p4655153.html Sent from

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread David Haslam
We know that xulsword also makes use of Abbreviations, primarily for Localization (just as they were intended), so it would be useful to have some response from John. Now that we have an IBT repository, if I install one of the IBT modules using Xiphos, because xulsword recognizes my sword path in