Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Greg Hellings
It's worth noting that cURL supports SFTP/SCP natively already. Adding support for SFTP in a cURL enabled SWORD build should be fairly easy. I seem to recall messing around with that ages ago when HTTP and HTTPS were added. But it suffered limitations as I mention below. The problem with that is

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop 1.4.0 and SWORD Utility Modules

2020-03-20 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Thank you to each one who responded with a font suggestion.  I have bundled 3 suggestions. There are two new options under Settings which should allow you to selects a font for both the reading text and also the application text. I first list all the bundled fonts, then 3 generic font families,

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop 1.4.0 and SWORD Utility Modules

2020-03-20 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Thank you for the report, Br. Cyrille.  It is fixed in the next release. On 3/20/20 6:28 AM, Cyrille wrote: > Have a look in the Chinese locale, it display zh_CN and note Chinese (in > chinese). > > Le 20/03/2020 à 05:18, Daniel Owens a écrit : >> Not sure if I love it, but Google's Noto fonts

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
:) The primary use case we have today for remote repositories, where no SWORD applications are involved (and thus would not benefit from SWORD creating folder and file index snapshops), are 3rd party publishers (and 2nd and 1st party publisher: us) who manage their module folders by hand. IMO,

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Michael Johnson
On 3/20/20 11:32 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Yes, we could do that, but... > > that's the comment I tried to make earlier.  FTP (and SFTP and WebDAV) > doesn't require any meta information-- it dynamically provides this for > you from looking at the files in your filesystem. > > If we require

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Yes, we could do that, but... that's the comment I tried to make earlier.  FTP (and SFTP and WebDAV) doesn't require any meta information-- it dynamically provides this for you from looking at the files in your filesystem. If we require each of our repositories to setup a special file before

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Michael Johnson
Wouldn't it make more sense, going forward, to make a directory file in a standard (for us) format on each repository? On 3/20/20 9:40 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > > Right, the issue is that our HTTP support is implemented as an attempt to > parse Apache directory listing HTML output.  It

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Right, the issue is that our HTTP support is implemented as an attempt to parse Apache directory listing HTML output.  It almost certainly won't work with other web servers and Apache has already changed their output on us at least once. Nick (PocketSword) graciously provided the original support

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:25 PM Michael Johnson wrote: > On 3/20/20 7:44 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > > > ✔ https://www.crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/ > > ✔ http://ftp.bible.org/ > > ✗ http://ftp.xiphos.org/ > > ✗ http://ftp.ibt.org.ru/ > > ✗ https://ftp.ebible.org/ > Please note that

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Michael Johnson
On 3/20/20 7:44 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > ✔ https://www.crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/ > ✔ http://ftp.bible.org/ > ✗ http://ftp.xiphos.org/ > ✗ http://ftp.ibt.org.ru/ > ✗ https://ftp.ebible.org/ Please note that https://ebible.org/sword/ works. You should use ftp.ebible.org when using ftp,

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 11:29 AM David Haslam wrote: > Thank you Caleb for so succinctly expressing the point that I vaguely > hinted at. > > This is something that needs our urgent attention. How does it need our attention? We have supported HTTP and HTTPS for a very long time for any

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I disagree. I never use my browser for FTP and I don't want security for the files I transfer over FTP.  It's a waste of bandwidth and cycles. HTTPS doesn't provide a common means to discover and traverse file systems like FTP.  WebDAV over HTTPS would be the alternative. SFTP would be our

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Moses McKnight
I don't know how you use FTP, but I have used SFTP for quite some time now and don't miss FTP at all for transferring to/from web servers. In Linux I just use the file manager (Nemo/Dolphin/Thunar) and it is seamless On 3/20/20 11:28 AM, David Haslam wrote: Thank you Caleb for so succinctly

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread David Haslam
Thank you Caleb for so succinctly expressing the point that I vaguely hinted at. This is something that needs our urgent attention. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 16:23, Caleb Maclennan wrote: > I don't think code sharing code with browsers is even the issue here,

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Caleb Maclennan
I don't think code sharing code with browsers is even the issue here, the issue is the FTP ecosystem is going away — and surprising quickly for something that used to be so ubiquitous. I've already bumped into several ISP's just flat out blocking all FTP traffic, probably because they didn't know

Re: [sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:20 AM David Haslam wrote: > The writing is on the wall for FTP. > > Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet > https://flip.it/AY-TTt > > How will this trend affect how we design and communicate? > Since we don't use or rely on Mozilla or Chrome code, I

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop 1.4.0 and SWORD Utility Modules

2020-03-20 Thread Cyrille
Have a look in the Chinese locale, it display zh_CN and note Chinese (in chinese). Le 20/03/2020 à 05:18, Daniel Owens a écrit : > Not sure if I love it, but Google's Noto fonts are designed to handle > many different languages. Noto Serif would not be a bad choice. We use > it to publish books

[sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

2020-03-20 Thread David Haslam
The writing is on the wall for FTP. Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet https://flip.it/AY-TTt How will this trend affect how we design and communicate? Best regards, David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile___ sword-devel mailing list: