Chris Little writes:
> I really wouldn't say that the collective output of people producing
> content in ThML for the Xiphos repository has any chance of countering the
> trend of OSIS/TEI content produced for CrossWire (numerically speaking).
It is not and never was any kind of competition. It
On 11/30/2010 6:58 AM, Greg Hellings wrote:
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Chris Little wrote:
It's also worth noting that only the OSIS and TEI counts are likely to
increase much in the future.
For your work, perhaps. But with the current state of OSIS vs ThML
that I mentioned in my em
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 03:35:13PM +0100, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
>
> > Von: "Mario Marín"
>
> >you can consider this thread as closed.
>
> LOL - if you think you could stop a developing flamefest over OSIS vs
> ThML between us CrossWire lot so easily, you have a lot to learn
> still... ;-)
I
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Chris Little wrote:
> OSIS 212 modules
> ThML 156 modules
> Plaintext 42 modules
> GBF 30 modules
> TEI 22 modules
And Xiphos' repository has another 41 ThML and 7 OSIS (I also see 1
plain, 1 TEI and 1 GBF) which makes it 219 OSIS and 197 ThML. My
InstallMgr rep
> Von: "Mario Marín"
>you can consider this thread as closed.
LOL - if you think you could stop a developing flamefest over OSIS vs ThML
between us CrossWire lot so easily, you have a lot to learn still... ;-)
This thread is a repetitive occurence, usually around this time of the year
when
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 09:07:16PM -0500, Brian J. Dumont wrote:
> On 11/29/2010 05:18 PM, David Haslam wrote:
> > Though this enquiry has generated a number of "asides", mmfmarin is still
> > awaiting help on using this.
> >
> To summarize: it seems to me, that we've presented mmfmarin with two
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM, DM Smith wrote:
> > ROFL is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this
> > is one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is a title.
> > Note that IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari are not con
On 11/29/2010 7:19 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:
It must be working, because of the two main formats that are available
(semantic OSIS and presentational ThML) I'd venture to guess that ThML
is the more common in SWORD modules. I'm open to being wrong, but I
would guess that I'm not.
This isn't p
Chris Little writes:
> ThML's fading value in other genre notwithstanding, it has almost
> always been useless for Bibles.
I have generated 44 ThML Bible modules. They look quite good. My spin
of NET/NETnote is a heckuva lot better than bible.org's own -- far more
featureful, and more true to e
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM, DM Smith wrote:
> ROFL is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this is
> one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is a title. Note
> that IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari are not consistent in how they render .
>
Ah, but it wasn't my
ROFL is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this is
one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is a title. Note
that IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari are not consistent in how they render .
If you had used the tag then it would have been presentational.
;)
On Nov 2
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Trevor Jenkins
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings wrote:
>
>> And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best
>> tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some
>> semantic dream world of markup.
>
>
On 11/29/2010 04:48 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote:
> On 11/29/2010 11:57 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>> Um, strictly speaking a markup scheme (such as ThML) is divorced from
>> presentational issues. Markup should identify document structure it
>> shouldn't deal with display at all. But then h
On 11/29/2010 05:18 PM, David Haslam wrote:
> Though this enquiry has generated a number of "asides", mmfmarin is still
> awaiting help on using this.
>
To summarize: it seems to me, that we've presented mmfmarin with two
options:
1. Make a ThML-ish IMP file. This is probably the fastest wa
On 11/29/2010 2:25 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:
xml2gbs
is the wrong utility. I don't even remember if that is the proper
utility for anything or if it has been superseded, but it is definitely
the wrong utility for him.
xml2gbs is the tool for importing valid ThML & OSIS freeform books into
Gen
On 11/29/2010 2:18 PM, David Haslam wrote:
I suspect that thml2osis.xslt is now quite old.
The README says it was maintained by Luke Plant.
Last time we heard from him (on any topic) in this mailing list was May 14,
2009.
Indeed, that isn't the converter that CCEL used. Now that I think abo
OP's question has been answered at least twice in this thread. xml2gbs is
the wrong utility. I don't even remember if that is the proper utility for
anything or if it has been superseded, but it is definitely the wrong
utility for him.
I gave more extensive directions on using ThML in my earlier e
I suspect that thml2osis.xslt is now quite old.
The README says it was maintained by Luke Plant.
Last time we heard from him (on any topic) in this mailing list was May 14,
2009.
Though this enquiry has generated a number of "asides", mmfmarin is still
awaiting help on using this.
David
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On 11/29/2010 11:57 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
Um, strictly speaking a markup scheme (such as ThML) is divorced from
presentational issues. Markup should identify document structure it
shouldn't deal with display at all. But then having been a member of
IEC/ISO TC1/SC18/WG8 a
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings wrote:
> And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best
> tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some
> semantic dream world of markup.
Um, strictly speaking a markup scheme (such as ThML) is divorced
On 11/29/2010 12:30 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:
And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is
the best tool for module creators who care about their presentation
The problem I have with that part of the statement is that often
presentation is presumed to be rather singul
And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best
tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some
semantic dream world of markup.
To create a ThML Bible or commentary you will need to use the imp format and
then just markup within the verses wit
On 11/29/2010 11:17 AM, Mario Marín wrote:
>
>> If I understand correctly from the fact that you're using xml2gbs,
>> you're working on a ThML Genbook, right? (As opposed to a Bible,
>> Commentary, or Dictionary)
>>
> No, it's a bible.
>
Aha! That's why. For starters, you should ignore a
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 19:07 -0800, Chris Little wrote:
>
> On 11/26/2010 1:24 PM, mmfma...@gmail.com wrote:
> > ModDrv?
>
> ModDrv=RawGenBook
>
> > CompressType?
> >
> > BlockType?
>
> Omit both of these.
I tried that but the module is not showing its text yet.
> > The module I created is rec
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 18:51 -0500, Brian J. Dumont wrote:
> Hi mmfmarin,
Hi Brian, thanks for your reply.
> If I understand correctly from the fact that you're using xml2gbs,
> you're working on a ThML Genbook, right? (As opposed to a Bible,
> Commentary, or Dictionary)
No, it's a bible.
> I'd
On 11/28/2010 3:05 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
Hi David,
See http://www.ccel.org/about/copyright.html. CCEL are not claiming
copyright on the text (which is public domain). What they are
claiming copyright on is the XML markup (references, sections, ...).
This XML markup is the version we w
There are a couple of further complications to any copyright claim on
CCEL content (at least content produced prior to their change of policy).
First, they were distributing all of that content clearly labeled as
public domain. This is closely akin to copyfraud, if not necessarily the
typical
Hi David,
See http://www.ccel.org/about/copyright.html. CCEL are not claiming
copyright on the text (which is public domain). What they are claiming
copyright on is the XML markup (references, sections, ...). This XML markup
is the version we would use in any of our modules. While this kind of
Chris,
If CCEL really are claiming copyright on PD works (etc), is it still
appropriate to include CCEL in the answer to this
http://crosswire.org/wiki/EnduserFAQ#Can_I_donate_to_your_ministry.3F FAQ ?
cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyfraud Wikipedia page about Copyfraud
Has anyone fro
On 11/26/2010 1:24 PM, mmfma...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for this great software.
I have an old thml file and I want to create a module to open it in
xiphos. The command I ran for this was:
xml2gbs -fT ~/path/to/file.thml modulename
The module seems OK, I get the following files:
modulename.
Hi mmfmarin,
If I understand correctly from the fact that you're using xml2gbs,
you're working on a ThML Genbook, right? (As opposed to a Bible,
Commentary, or Dictionary)
I'd suggest you start by looking in two places. Firstly, look at the
conf file for another ThML Genbook. I would suggest "S
Thanks for this great software.
I have an old thml file and I want to create a module to open it in
xiphos. The command I ran for this was:
xml2gbs -fT ~/path/to/file.thml modulename
The module seems OK, I get the following files:
modulename.bdt modulename.dat modulename.idx
I don't know the
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