Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-05 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Ben Morgan wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > I wasn't suggesting that each user maintain a stylesheet, but if the > > application lets users supply their own, such a stylesheet could be > created > > and distributed (it

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-02 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Ben Morgan wrote: > Hi Greg, > I wasn't suggesting that each user maintain a stylesheet, but if the > application lets users supply their own, such a stylesheet could be created > and distributed (it could even potentially target individual modules). So then you wa

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-02 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Jonathan Morgan > wrote: > > From an application developer's point of view, I'm not convinced that per > > module CSS is a good idea. Here are some reasons: > > 1. I'm not convinced of "well-defined use of HTM

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-02 Thread Ben Morgan
Hi Greg, On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > User-specified stylesheets would not help me much at all. Since each > module has its own look and feel that it needs to maintain. Yes, > there is a certain uniformity to them, since they largely all come > through the same publis

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Ben Morgan wrote: > Hi Greg, > I agree the mechanism is simple enough; the ramifications are potentially > not. Personally, I would mostly prefer that modules cannot provide their own > stylesheets. On the web, every site has its own style; in print, each Bible > ha

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-01 Thread Ben Morgan
Hi Greg, On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > I believe the phrase would mean the SWORD library would produce a well > defined set of HTML elements with classes attached to help preserve > the semantic meaning. It would then be up to the consumer of that > HTML - the applicati

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > From an application developer's point of view, I'm not convinced that per > module CSS is a good idea.  Here are some reasons: > 1. I'm not convinced of "well-defined use of HTML+CSS classes".  Some things > may be well-defined, but I know B

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-12-01 Thread Jonathan Morgan
>From an application developer's point of view, I'm not convinced that per module CSS is a good idea. Here are some reasons: 1. I'm not convinced of "well-defined use of HTML+CSS classes". Some things may be well-defined, but I know BPBible does a lot of customisation of the SWORD generated HTML

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-11-30 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Peter von Kaehne" writes: > I would much rather we produced good modules and filed endless numbers of > bug reports against any application and the library for non-compliance if > things which should work do not work, instead of targetting the oddities > and non-compliant aspects of each applicat

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-11-30 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Greg Hellings writes: > 2) I can provide an external CSS stylesheet along with my module. > Then I could still use OSIS and, assuming well-defined use of HTML+CSS > classes being produced from OSIS by the engine, I could style the > module the way I desired. This would not require terribly much w

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options (was Re: Config file for thml module)

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > >> Von: Greg Hellings > >> However, a few problems arise.  Namely, I have no control over the >> display of the text in my target applications (Xiphos and Bibletime) >> when I use OSIS.  You, being in the semantics-please camp, might thin

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options (was Re: Config file for thml module)

2010-11-30 Thread Peter von Kaehne
> Von: Greg Hellings > However, a few problems arise. Namely, I have no control over the > display of the text in my target applications (Xiphos and Bibletime) > when I use OSIS. You, being in the semantics-please camp, might think > that's a good thing. You've stymied my attempt, as a conten

[sword-devel] Markup Options (was Re: Config file for thml module)

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM, DM Smith wrote: >> > ROFL is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this >> > is one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is