Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-14 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:39 pm, Lynn Allan wrote: > I would probably prefer to release LcdBible and the InVerse Scripture > memorization freeware to the Public Domain than use the GPL as it seems to > be understood on The SWORD Project. I don't really want to get into this as I work on man

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-11 Thread Hastings
At 09:40 AM 12/11/2003, Lynn Allan wrote: Actually, historically there has been a lot of discussion on this list about how Bible software should be done and distributed. There are those here that, like you, focus more on verses that support, "Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice," while

[sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-11 Thread Lynn Allan
I believe I now have a reasonably coherent working knowledge re GPL, The CrossWire Bible Society, and the proposed LcdBible software. Thanks very much for the "enthusiastic" contributions from the following and more. I have seen grace and forebearance in action during this thread. Chris Little De

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Derek Neighbors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Little wrote: | On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Derek Neighbors wrote: | | |>Lynn Allan wrote: |>| Hello Ka-shu Wong, |>| |>| Thanks so much for writing. I believe I actually may understand those |>issues |>| that apply to the proposed LcdBible and the InVer

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Chris Little
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Derek Neighbors wrote: > Lynn Allan wrote: > | Hello Ka-shu Wong, > | > | Thanks so much for writing. I believe I actually may understand those > issues > | that apply to the proposed LcdBible and the InVerse Scripture memorization > | freeware. You are a wizard of clarity. I

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Derek Neighbors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lynn Allan wrote: | Hello Ka-shu Wong, | | Thanks so much for writing. I believe I actually may understand those issues | that apply to the proposed LcdBible and the InVerse Scripture memorization | freeware. You are a wizard of clarity. I hope you are

[sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Lynn Allan
Hello Ka-shu Wong, Thanks so much for writing. I believe I actually may understand those issues that apply to the proposed LcdBible and the InVerse Scripture memorization freeware. You are a wizard of clarity. I hope you are correct. Would someone please correct any fallacies on my part with the

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Chris Little
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Lynn Allan wrote: > Is anybody else noticing that we are getting what seems to be contradictory > information about the GPL license? Well, there are two aspects to this. First, the letter. The letter of the license is rather clear. It wasn't written by a lawyer, but by a

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Klaus R. H. Walther
Hello Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2003 21:39 schrieb Lynn Allan: > While we remain on "this side", our fallen natures seems to call for > copyright rather than copyleft. This may be morbid, but one of the reasons > I look forward to my death is to get away from all this "crud". I get as > weary of p

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Ka-shu Wong
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 03:06:19PM -0700, Lynn Allan wrote: > Live several others on this list, I am a freeware developer trying to > participate in The SWORD Project's software development. When I first > encountered this licensing issue, I hunted around the gnu website quite a > while to learn mo

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Hastings
At 01:39 PM 12/10/2003, Lynn Allan wrote: Is anybody else noticing that we are getting what seems to be contradictory information about the GPL license? Step 1: You can. Step 2: No, you can't. Step 3. Yes, you can. Step 4. Go-To Step 2. You get the same kind of responses from people talking about c

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Chris Little
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: > After posting the previous post I read the other thread which also covered > licencing issues. I want to make some things clear. > > I think Chris made some statements which are wrong or at least too strong. Sorry Eeli, you are completely and utterly

[sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Lynn Allan
Thanks Tom Pollard for the link. > Frequently Asked Questions about the GNU GPL > > Live several others on this list, I am a freeware developer trying to participate in The SWORD Project's software development. When I first encountered this lic

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Derek Neighbors
Lynn Allan said: > Although admittedly uninformed, I have never been a fan of the GPL. I am > a strong believer in copyright, intellectual property, and property > rights. I believe the USA founding fathers knew what they were doing > when they established the Copyright Office. Was it specified in

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Martin Gruner
> enough of this scribbler's opinions> You're definitely about to get me to this point. Did you read the GPL yourself? > I would probably prefer to release LcdBible and the InVerse Scripture > memorization freeware to the Public Domain than use the GPL as it seems to > be understood on The SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Tom Pollard
TWIMC, There's a rather extensive FAQ available on the GNU site that tries to clarify exactly what the GPL does and does not mean (in the eyes of the FSF, at least.) Frequently Asked Questions about the GNU GPL In particular, it is quite explic

[sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Lynn Allan
Is anybody else noticing that we are getting what seems to be contradictory information about the GPL license? Step 1: You can. Step 2: No, you can't. Step 3. Yes, you can. Step 4. Go-To Step 2. Although admittedly uninformed, I have never been a fan of the GPL. I am a strong believer in copyri

[sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-10 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
After posting the previous post I read the other thread which also covered licencing issues. I want to make some things clear. I think Chris made some statements which are wrong or at least too strong. A program which uses sword libraries doesn't have to be under GPL. It only must be under a GP