[sword-devel] The OSIS element seg

2020-03-05 Thread David Haslam
The OSIS 2.1.1 spec permits a seg element within a seg element. Does the SWORD API make adequate provision for nesting of seg elements that have different type attribute values? This technical question relates to my earlier message of today. A negative answer might go some way to accounting for

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-21 Thread DM Smith
iptions > turn up in searches, while they would not otherwise, unless one searches for > capitalized text. > > Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. > > > ---- Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS elem

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-21 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
" An: "David Haslam" , "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Cc: "ref...@gmx.net" Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ? Corrigendum   I should have written type="small-caps" for the hi element.   btw. The testing of this i

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-21 Thread David Haslam
turn up in searches, while they would not otherwise, unless one searches for >> capitalized text. >> >> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. >> >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-21 Thread David Haslam
entation is capitalisation. Or better >>>> small caps. Only to work the actual presentation needs to be taken out of >>>> the text as it stands. Right now KJV inscriptions are both tagged and >>>> capitalised. Can I ask for this being corrected? >>>&

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-21 Thread ref...@gmx.net
: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?From: DM Smith To: David Haslam ,SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum CC: In the KJV, these are IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. I think that we are both marking it semantically and having the text as given. I think this is correct.I can see about renderi

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-20 Thread DM Smith
to work the actual presentation needs to be taken out of >> the text as it stands. Right now KJV inscriptions are both tagged and >> capitalised. Can I ask for this being corrected? >> >> Thanks >> >> Peter >> >> Sent from my mobile. Please f

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-20 Thread David Haslam
this being corrected? > > Thanks > > Peter > > Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. > > ---- Original Message > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ? > From: DM Smith > To: David Haslam ,SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-20 Thread ref...@gmx.net
nt from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. Original Message Subject: Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?From: DM Smith To: David Haslam ,SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum CC: JSword -> YesOn Mar 20, 2018, at 11:46 AM,

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-20 Thread DM Smith
Original Message ‐‐‐ > On 17 March 2018 2:31 PM, ref...@gmx.net wrote: > >> Easily done with CSS, I would do little else. >> >> Do you have a list of occasions this could be used at? >> >> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-20 Thread David Haslam
used at? > > Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. > > Original Message -------- > Subject: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ? > From: David Haslam > To: sword-devel mailing list > CC: > >> Does SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-17 Thread ref...@gmx.net
Easily done with CSS, I would do little else. Do you have a list of occasions this could be used at?Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. Original Message Subject: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?From: David Haslam To: sword-devel

[sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

2018-03-17 Thread David Haslam
Does SWORD contain any code to render text wrapped by the OSIS inscription element ? Best regards, David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructi

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2015-01-24 Thread DM Smith
speaker and q are not equivalent. speech and q are. (according to the OSIS manual.) Speaker is meant to surround the one who is speaking. E.g. David said: ….. — DM > On Jan 24, 2015, at 3:49 PM, David Haslam wrote: > > Making a one to one equivalence between USFM marker \sp and OSIS element >

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2015-01-24 Thread David Haslam
That makes good sense, but it will fall to the ground if the USFM to OSIS conversion ignores this workaround. As long as it converts the \sp marker to the element, and the OSIS validates, most module makers will not even realise that there is a serious underlying problem. David -- View this m

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2015-01-24 Thread David Haslam
Making a one to one equivalence between USFM marker \sp and OSIS element is a questionable assumption for several reasons. 1. The translator may have used the \sp marker for non-canonical purposes. 2. In such a context, it would be better OSIS practice to use 3. Yet unless the SWORD back-end

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2015-01-24 Thread DM Smith
The common example of using speaker to identify Man/Woman (He/She) in Psalms is not recommended by the OSIS manual. Since it is added text (i.e. not in the Hebrew), the OSIS manual recommends: woman The OSIS manual recommends using speaker for canonical text. However, true is not the default va

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2015-01-22 Thread David Haslam
Apart from the lack of SWORD support, there is also an OSIS conversion issue relating to the speaker element. See http://www.crosswire.org/tracker/browse/MODTOOLS-87 David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/The-OSIS-speaker-element-tp4651387p4654535.html Se

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2015-01-03 Thread David Haslam
The question arises because usfm2osis.py converts \sp_text to text In the Welsh beibl.net translation, Arfon has used the \sp marker in these four OT books: Song, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel ( but not in Job ! ). I therefore assume that he did this as a matter of interpretation, rather than

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2015-01-03 Thread DM Smith
Is the speaker identified in Job and Songs canonical text? That is, is it in the underlying Hebrew? — DM > On Jan 3, 2015, at 8:55 AM, David Haslam wrote: > > For modules that contain the OSIS element (e.g. in Job & Song for > some Bibles), > does the OSISHeadings filter toggle these along wit

[sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2015-01-03 Thread David Haslam
For modules that contain the OSIS element (e.g. in Job & Song for some Bibles), does the OSISHeadings filter toggle these along with the other headings that use the element? cf. The corresponding USFM marker is \sp_text - and this is categorized under Titles, Headings and Labels. David --

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2012-12-16 Thread pola ashraf
I like the idea, Hope to see such features in Arabic modules, but we even don't even have the modules themselves :) ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listin

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2012-12-15 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi David >From my point of view, the speakers is so infrequently used across OSIS modules that it would only come in useful for some texts. I'm not entirely sure how often it is used even in those texts that do have some speaker elements. The main use case I'd find for it is find all instances of

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2012-12-15 Thread David Haslam
Hi Chris, Do you think it would benefit users if SWORD could be enhanced to use GlobalOptionFilter=OSISspeakers ?? And should the search index include or exclude the names of speakers? David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/The-OSIS-speaker-element-tp4

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2012-12-15 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi David Step displays this in purple at the moment, which matches a number of other headings we display. Chris On 15 December 2012 10:23, David Haslam wrote: > *Bible Desktop* displays these *speakers* with blue text. > > What do other JSword based front-ends do? > > David > > > > -- > View

Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2012-12-15 Thread David Haslam
*Bible Desktop* displays these *speakers* with blue text. What do other JSword based front-ends do? David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/The-OSIS-speaker-element-tp4651387p4651398.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

[sword-devel] The OSIS element ?

2012-12-13 Thread David Haslam
How about including in SWORD some suitable support for the element? With a GlobalOptionFilter to toggle the display of this (non-canonical) feature, which is used in some translations to identify the lover and the beloved in the Song of Songs. David -- View this message in context: http://