Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

Matěj Cepl writes: > I am always haunted by the image of the prophet Jeremiah sitting in > front of the gates of Jerusalem asking for the royalties on his > prophecies. I don't know how Jeremiah made his living, but the scribes who made copies of his prophecies available to others were...ummm...s

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 8.3.2012 11:46, Jonathan Morgan wrote: Thanks, I was unclear. I was not arguing against copyright in Bibles generally (though I do not like it, it's a separate issue). I am always haunted by the image of the prophet Jeremiah sitting in front of the gates of Jerusalem asking for the royalti

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/08/2012 03:53 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Howzabout you grant us a smidgen of respect for the positively alarming > amount of effort that gets put into our collective software efforts and > our collective module creation skills. Waddayasay you don't use as your > starting assumption that we

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/08/2012 12:46 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: Hi Michael, On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: On 03/07/2012 04:53 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

Kahunapule Michael Johnson writes: > Chronic or excessive bugs, or bugs that are serious but don't get > fixed are a major problem. > Designed-in bugs that don't get fixed are show-stopper problems. I would be interested in -- entertained by -- even one example of any Sword program or library who

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

Hi Michael, On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson < kahunap...@mpj.cx> wrote: > On 03/07/2012 04:53 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > > > ... I'm suggesting copyright is the wrong tool to use to enforce such > claims, since I can't see that it will actually target the one respo

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 00:22 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > Michael asks, > "Is there any way we can tag a module as being of a version that requires > support for alternate versification and/or support for RtoL scripts? > Then only front ends with that capability could display it, and we wouldn't >

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 22:13 -1000, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > I'm not really asking if The Sword Project is 100% bug free, but I'm testing > the waters to see if there is really an awareness here of the seriousness of > the importance of preserving all of the jots and tittles of Bible t

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

Michael asks, "Just how serious is it if the versification isn't KJV-only? Will 3 John 1:15 or Romans 14:24-26 be discarded or fail to display?" The documented action of our module creation tools already addresses what happens if a passage falls beyond the specified v11n. The verse text is append

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

Michael asks, "Is there any way we can tag a module as being of a version that requires support for alternate versification and/or support for RtoL scripts? Then only front ends with that capability could display it, and we wouldn't have to withhold the module from the front ends that don't." We

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/07/2012 09:04 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 8.3.2012 07:14, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: >> The #1 reason they give me for copyrighting Bibles is that they want >> some way to protect the text from corruption. Arguments to the >> contrary are futile. > > Can I ask for clarification here? Is

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 8.3.2012 07:14, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: The #1 reason they give me for copyrighting Bibles is that they want some way to protect the text from corruption. Arguments to the contrary are futile. Can I ask for clarification here? Is the problem existence of bugs in software or willfu

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/07/2012 04:53 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: ...  I'm suggesting copyright is the wrong tool to use to enforce such claims, since I can't see that it will actually target the one responsible for the wrong.  I agree quality control is a

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

Hi, On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson < kahunap...@mpj.cx> wrote: > On 03/06/2012 04:12 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson < > kahunap...@mpj.cx> wrote: > >> On 03/06/2012 12:47 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: >> >>

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/07/2012 02:46 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: On 03/06/2012 04:12 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson mailto:kahunap...@mpj.cx>> wrote: On 03/06/2012 12:47 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: 1. You accurately preserve al

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/06/2012 04:12 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: On 03/06/2012 12:47 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson < kahunap...@mpj.cx> wrote: > On 03/06/2012 12:47 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > > >>1. You accurately preserve all of the original text and punctuation >>(including quotation punctuation) exactly as it was in the original USFM. >>

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/05/2012 09:59 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > ... >> I'm trying to convert Scripture files on a scale and with speed that > is apparently unprecedented. > > The scale might be unprecedent, but there are reasons for that > > 1) None of us have yet encountered a USFM text which is actually clean.

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

All front ends should display all text with the punctuation as given. Anything other than that is a bug that must be fixed. They will differ on their styling of that text. On 03/06/2012 02:17 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: On 03/06/2012 12:47 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: 1. You acc

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/06/2012 12:47 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: You accurately preserve all of the original text and punctuation (including quotation punctuation) exactly as it was in the original USFM. This involves the complete

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

Hi Michael, On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson < kahunap...@mpj.cx> wrote: > On 03/05/2012 08:07 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > On 05/03/12 17:33, Greg Hellings wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Kahunapule Michael > Johnson wrote: > > On 03/05/2012 03:20 A

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 06/03/12 01:42, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > It is most likely a misunderstanding. Perhaps I have also been > misunderstanding some of the messages that seem to be opposed to USFM. > I'm not trying to suggest that USFM be made an additional internal > format for Sword for Bible search a

[sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

On 03/05/2012 08:07 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: On 05/03/12 17:33, Greg Hellings wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: On 03/05/2012 03:20 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: You seem quite t