RE: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-15 Thread David Overcash
Sorry Chris, I think they may have received your request after they sent their messages as email servers tend to be slow in delivery. -Dave O Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse for theological debates: > NB:

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-15 Thread chris
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 13:27, you wrote: > Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse > > for theological debates: > > NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may > > argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside. > >

RE: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-15 Thread Chris Little
Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse for theological debates: > NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside. So, that said, you have three options: 1) Move your discus

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-15 Thread chris
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 10:16, you wrote: > >It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of > >releasing a prisoner on pesach. > > > >>Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain > >>Judaic circles? > > > >No, it has even been reported on

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-15 Thread Chris
> > >It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of >releasing a prisoner on pesach. > >>Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain >>Judaic circles? >> > >No, it has even been reported on the discovery channel. > Oh, well if it was on TV i

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-15 Thread chris
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 01:25, you wrote: > On Monday 14 January 2002 21:02, chris wrote: > > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote: > >> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: > > Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did. > >> > >> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-15 Thread chris
On Monday 14 January 2002 18:40, you wrote: > > > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: > > > > > > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to > > > > spell > > > > > out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the > > > messiah. > > So,

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-15 Thread chris
On Monday 14 January 2002 18:21, you wrote: > > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote: > > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: > > > >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did. > > > > > > Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew > > > but apparen

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-14 Thread Leon Brooks
On Monday 14 January 2002 21:02, chris wrote: > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote: >> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: > Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did. >> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but >> apparently not convinced

RE: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-14 Thread David Overcash
> > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: > > > > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to > spell > > out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the > > messiah. So, you are saying that Jesus is a God? And because Jewish and Christi

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-14 Thread Michael Rempel
> On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote: > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: > > >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did. > > > > Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but > > apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-14 Thread chris
On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote: > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: > >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did. > > Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but > apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please > exp

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-14 Thread Leon Brooks
On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did. Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please explain? > As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-14 Thread Leon Brooks
On Sunday 13 January 2002 01:39, Chris Little wrote: > We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many > of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the > Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major > sources? The JEDP hypothes

RE: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-13 Thread Chris Little
> >My point is that scholarship challenges many traditional notions of > >Biblical authorship. At one point, Pauline authorship of > Hebrews was > >the prevailing view. > > > And prior to it becoming a prevailing view, it was not the > prevailing view. > > >Modern Bibles don't typically gro

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread Jerry Kreps
On Saturday 12 January 2002 20:00, you wrote: > On Saturday 12 January 2002 20:14, you wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:51 AM > >

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread chris
On Saturday 12 January 2002 20:14, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:51 AM > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles > > > On Saturday 1

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread Flemming Vilster
- Original Message - From: "chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles > On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:39, you wrote: > > > I see that the def

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread chris
On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:39, you wrote: > > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" > > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews > > is by Paul? > > We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many > of our localized book names.

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread Terry Biggs
A lot of us old folks do! On Sat, 2002-01-12 at 03:34, Chris wrote: > > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" includes Hebrews. > Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews is by Paul? > > > -- Terry Rev 1:5 "...Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread Chris
Chris Little wrote: >>I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" >>includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews >>is by Paul? >> > >We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many >of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously beli

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread Martin Gruner
> > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" > > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews > > is by Paul? Traditionally, those letters with Paul as sender in the text are considered Paul's letters. That would be Romans - Philemon. That is how we handle our

RE: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread Chris Little
> I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews > is by Paul? We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the Pentateuch was

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread Chris
> > >The answer would be in where our average user expected Hebrews to be,and I would >estimate that under "Paul's Epistles" was not a bad answer, > >even if technically incorrect, people would guess where to go. > Hmm, when searching (that's the only purpose of the categories isn't it?), I was

Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles

2002-01-12 Thread Joe Walker
On Sat, 2002-01-12 at 08:34, Chris wrote: > > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" includes Hebrews. > Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews is by Paul? At the risk of getting off topic, I think there is an empirical "yes" to your question - some people do seriously b