Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-10 Thread Scott Royall
day, January 10, 2014 00:44 To: 'Shortwave programming discussion' Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news Ted, it's not that there is anything wrong with services like Me-TV or Antenna TV per se. I occasionally get some amusement out of watching old shows myself. It's simpl

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Rob de Santos
PM To: Scott Royall; Shortwave programming discussion Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news We should have this conversation in the Hospitality Room at the Fest. We'll have the beverages...and we can even have some tea for Scott! RC On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Scott Royall wrote

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Rob de Santos
lto:swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Ted S. Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:50 PM To: Shortwave programming discussion Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:16:41 -0500, in shortwave you wrote: > Two examples of this come to mind. A few months

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Cuff
We should have this conversation in the Hospitality Room at the Fest. We'll have the beverages...and we can even have some tea for Scott! RC On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Scott Royall wrote: > For me, just tea, please. :) > ___ Swprograms mailing l

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Scott Royall
For me, just tea, please. :) -Original Message- From: Swprograms [mailto:swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of John A. Figliozzi Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 21:17 To: Shortwave programming discussion Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news I see you, me, Scott and a

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread John A. Figliozzi
I see you, me, Scott and a few others could have a lot of fun with this topic over a few adult beverages. :) Sent from my iPad > On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:00 PM, "Ted S." wrote: > >> On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:28:55 -0500, in shortwave you wrote: >> >> I think you've misunderstood, Ted. The criticism

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Ted S.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:16:41 -0500, in shortwave you wrote: > Two examples of this come to mind. A few months before the digital > changeover I had a meeting with an executive at one of the Columbus > TV stations. Ostensibly, I was there to talk sports programming and > promotion. I asked him: "so

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Ted S.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:28:55 -0500, in shortwave you wrote: > I think you've misunderstood, Ted. The criticism of government > policy regards allowing (in fact fostering) concentration of control > over a public resource--not a public vs. private broadcasting > argument. One of the points I was t

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread John A. Figliozzi
Shortwave programming discussion > Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news > >> On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:12:22 -0500, in shortwave you wrote: >> >> You'd >> think the squandered opportunity to put a meaningful format on WWKB > > This comes up against Scott Ro

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Scott Royall
9, 2014 19:43 To: Shortwave programming discussion Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:12:22 -0500, in shortwave you wrote: > You'd > think the squandered opportunity to put a meaningful format on WWKB This comes up against Scott Royall's comment, as y

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread John A. Figliozzi
I think you've misunderstood, Ted. The criticism of government policy regards allowing (in fact fostering) concentration of control over a public resource--not a public vs. private broadcasting argument. So, as to the sports talk situation, in Buffalo at least WGR is already widely heard on it

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Rob de Santos
al Message- From: Swprograms [mailto:swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Anderson Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM To: Shortwave programming discussion Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news On Thu, 1/9/14, David Goren wrote: > Is there a prohibitio

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Ted S.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:12:22 -0500, in shortwave you wrote: > You'd > think the squandered opportunity to put a meaningful format on WWKB This comes up against Scott Royall's comment, as you're implying that sports talk is somehow not meaningful. (Ever since the New York ESPN Radio affiliate went

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread david goren
On Jan 9, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Richard Cuff wrote: > David, I surmise that stations aren't interested in doing that unless > a gun were held to their heads. > > SCA is different - it doesn't directly compete with the principal > station's programming. There are a couple of HD-2's in NYC that are

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Cuff
David, I surmise that stations aren't interested in doing that unless a gun were held to their heads. SCA is different - it doesn't directly compete with the principal station's programming. Look at the situation up in Buffalo - Entercom is the dominant player, and parks ESPN on its 50 kW WWKB tr

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Cuff
heh - you're right, Scott...that definition would be difficult to impossible, and the prevailing concept would be to simply let market forces have their way, and we can see how well commercial HD radio has done. In this region KYW Philadelphia is simulcast on an HD2 FM channel in addition to its c

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Kevin Anderson
On Thu, 1/9/14, David Goren wrote: > Is there a prohibition for stations > to lease their HD-2 and HD-3 in a manner similar to FM > subcarrier stations? Otherwise, that could be a model. I don't believe there is an FCC regulation that would deny this possibility, which means it is more flexibl

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Scott Royall
grams-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Richard Cuff Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 09:57 To: Shortwave programming discussion Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news Reminds me of the term "dark fiber" - from the telecommunications industry. When long-haul fiber optic cable

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread David Goren
Is there a prohibition for stations to lease their HD-2 and HD-3 in a manner similar to FM subcarrier stations? Otherwise, that could be a model. On the public radio side, HD is actually a good fit for stations that had bifurcated formats. Transition to single formats in public radio has been a

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Cuff
Reminds me of the term "dark fiber" - from the telecommunications industry. When long-haul fiber optic cable was first laid into the ground, expectations were that its transmission capacity would be sufficient for a reasonable number of years, allowing for a reasonable period of cost amortization.

Re: [Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread John A. Figliozzi
A personal take on the "drive for digital"... (Catchy, eh?) Ibiquity arguably has the best technology solution here because it alone addresses the blackout problem that occurs when the digital signal degrades below threshold. However, like its digital brethren (DAB, DAB+ and DRM, there's really

[Swprograms] Digital radio news

2014-01-09 Thread Rob de Santos
A slew of news on digital radio today at radiomagonline.com: New Siano chip supports both mobile TV and digital radio (DAB, DRM, DVB, etc) : http://tinyurl.com/qbv4zpy Ibiquity claims big growth in sales and listening (umm, divide this by the 315 million population in the US and it's not as im