[symfony-users] Re: MVC separation in Symfony

2008-03-04 Thread Fabian Lange
Hi, I do not se apparent MVC violation. I also do not get the point of that "crazy guy". Is he talking about some theoretical MVC reference implementation? MVC means in general that you should think of separating data, actions and presentation. That what symfony does. If you move controller code f

[symfony-users] Re: MVC separation in Symfony

2008-03-04 Thread Elliott Kember
> > Is he talking about some theoretical MVC reference implementation? Yeah, I think he is. I think that his problem here is that it's *possible *to build applications that go against the theory of MVC. I don't see this as a problem, but I guess it's not an entirely idiot-proof solution - I agree

[symfony-users] Re: MVC separation in Symfony

2008-03-05 Thread Peter Bowyer
Hi Fabian, Thanks for your response. At 16:41 04/03/2008, you wrote: >Without knowing more where you are aiming at, I cant help you further. If >you could outline your scenario more we can tell you how you can do it with >symfony. I was thinking a bit too abstract to be practical. In the sense

[symfony-users] Re: MVC separation in Symfony

2008-03-05 Thread Richtermeister
Hi all, to Peter's thought of automating the output-type decision of an action based on what type of request is coming in (unless I also missed it ;) , I think that is actually a valid point that Mike "let's not perpetuate the crazy-guy name" is bringing up. In his Agavi framework, they treat req

[symfony-users] Re: MVC separation in Symfony

2008-03-06 Thread Fabian Lange
-Original Message- From: Peter Bowyer Sent: Mittwoch, 5. März 2008 09:37 To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [symfony-users] Re: MVC separation in Symfony Hi Fabian, Thanks for your response. At 16:41 04/03/2008, you wrote: >Without knowing more where you are aiming at, I cant hel

[symfony-users] Re: MVC separation in Symfony

2008-03-06 Thread Lee Bolding
Original Message- From: symfony-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fabian Lange Sent: 06 March 2008 15:08 To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [symfony-users] Re: MVC separation in Symfony Hi Peter, - please turn your buzzword-detector off - thats indeed a