Re: [sympy] Sympy.physics.mechanics / dynamicsymbols

2022-02-14 Thread Peter Stahlecker
Dear Jason, Just read you latest addition about vectors and reference frames. Small question: In order to rotate a frame relative to another one, you use these terms *A.orient_axis(N, ..)* *A.orient_body_fixed(N, …)* I assume, these are the new versions for A.orientnew(N, ‚Axis‘, …) A.orientnew(N

Re: [sympy] Sympy.physics.mechanics / dynamicsymbols

2022-02-14 Thread Peter Stahlecker
Dear Jason, As to the speed of the new terms, I simply tried it, using the equations of motion of a one body pendulum. There is no difference to the older terms: with the *body* version the the rhs has 863, 824 operations. with the axis version, 2 intermediate frames, the rhs has 43,722 operation

Re: [sympy] Sympy.physics.mechanics / dynamicsymbols

2022-02-14 Thread Alan Bromborsky
For the people developing and maintaining the mechanics modules, you may want to look at the following book which treats mechanics problems with some new methods.  Describing rotations is greatly simplified - https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/0-306-47122-1 On 2/14/22 12:40 PM, Peter Stahl

Re: [sympy] Sympy.physics.mechanics / dynamicsymbols

2022-02-14 Thread Jason Moore
Peter, If orient_body_fixed produces longer equations of motion than chaining orient_axis (or the older orient() and orientnew()), then we should figure out what the problem is with orient_body_fixed. orient_body_fixed should produce shorter equations of motion because the angular velocities are

Re: [sympy] Sympy.physics.mechanics / dynamicsymbols

2022-02-14 Thread Jason Moore
Alan, Thanks for the tip. There are lots of mechanics notations and methods, but I'm not sure I'd use many of them for teaching mechanics because the more advanced math principles often hide the forest for the trees for engineering students. These newer methods based on Geometric and Clifford alge

Re: [sympy] Sympy.physics.mechanics / dynamicsymbols

2022-02-14 Thread Jason Moore
Peter, I opened this issue: https://github.com/sympy/sympy/issues/23075 Jason moorepants.info +01 530-601-9791 On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:28 PM Jason Moore wrote: > Peter, > > If orient_body_fixed produces longer equations of motion than chaining > orient_axis (or the older orient() and orient

Re: [sympy] Sympy.physics.mechanics / dynamicsymbols

2022-02-14 Thread Peter Stahlecker
Dear Alan, Thanks a lot for the hint! I had a look at the book in Amazon, what little they let me see. I must admit that books not written in the format - some motivation - definition - theorem - proof are difficult for me to read. I get lost in the narrative. Take care! Peter On Mon 14. Feb 2022