Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-12 Thread Robert Quattlebaum
It happens. I mean, I haven't really been around to point out things like this in the past several years. :) On May 11, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Carlos López González wrote: > You're right Robert, I got confused. Gamma is load and saved with the > settings of the application. > > El domingo, 12 de

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-12 Thread Timothée Giet
2013/5/12 Carlos López González > Thanks Timotheé. > Now I start to see things clearly. So the current situation is similar to > the block diagram you have drawn with the exception that the user can't > choose a color space to perform the input value of the color through the > color chooser and t

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-11 Thread Carlos López González
You're right Robert, I got confused. Gamma is load and saved with the settings of the application. El domingo, 12 de mayo de 2013, Robert Quattlebaum escribió: > > On May 11, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Carlos López González > > > wrote: > > > So, what's the usage of the gamma calibration widget? Should i

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-11 Thread Robert Quattlebaum
On May 11, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Carlos López González wrote: > So, what's the usage of the gamma calibration widget? Should it be removed? > Gamma value stored in canvas in a sift file is never used and we use always > 2.2 for output and 1/2.2 for input. If we implement the color management we >

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-11 Thread Robert Quattlebaum
The graphs look good to me. 👍 __ Robert Quattlebaum (Sent from iPhone) On May 11, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Timothée Giet wrote: > >> Synfig Studio does do monitor-specific color correction. It allows you to >> correct for the monitor gamma (per channel) and the monitor black level.

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-10 Thread Carlos López González
2013/5/10 Robert Quattlebaum > > The monitor gamma adjustment was never intended to be used as a way to > change the gamma of the native colorspace. The user "choosing to work with > a gamma of 1.0" is a symptom of a huge problem. They aren't actually > working at a gamma of 1.0, they are working

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-10 Thread Robert Quattlebaum
Oh yeah... On May 9, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Robert Quattlebaum wrote: > (Despite the fact that Synfig's native colorspace has gamut that covers 100% > of human vision, Synfig Studio (at least the last time I checked) doesn't > support wide-gamut displays or do any sort of color correction to adjus

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-10 Thread Robert Quattlebaum
The monitor gamma adjustment was never intended to be used as a way to change the gamma of the native colorspace. The user "choosing to work with a gamma of 1.0" is a symptom of a huge problem. They aren't actually working at a gamma of 1.0, they are working on a completely misconfigured setup.

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-10 Thread Carlos López González
Hi Robert, First, thank you for take your time on give us your vision and experience on color management for Synfig. Although I will need some time (and much reading!) to fully digest what you say in your email, I would like to clarify a bit the mentioned "gamma issue": Basically what people com

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-10 Thread Timothée Giet
Hi Robert, Thanks a lot for your email, it has all the infos I was missing about Synfig's colorspace, and your advice about this is so precious! So to make it fast I'll answer just the conclusion: > Now that I've said what I think should be done, here is what I think * > shouldn't* be done: > >

Re: [Synfig-devl] Synfig Color Management

2013-05-09 Thread Robert Quattlebaum
Howdy everyone. On May 7, 2013, at 4:32 AM, Carlos López González wrote: > Since it is planned for 0.64.1 to fix the "gamma issue" I asked to Timotheé > Giet for help on that matter. > > I would like to write down a blueprint for color management in Synfig (and > then fix the weirdness of th