Fwd: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-19 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
5 AM Subject: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks To: d...@spamassassin.apache.org https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7566 Kevin A. McGrail changed: What|Removed

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-19 Thread Dave Jones
Is Dave Warren on this list? If no response, does anyone have an old email with his contact info so I can ask him how his rsync's are setup? Dave On 03/19/2018 08:26 AM, bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org wrote: https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7566 Dave Jones chang

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-19 Thread Dave Jones
I found an email address in the SA archives from 2013. Hopefully this makes it to him. On 03/19/2018 08:33 AM, Dave Jones wrote: Is Dave Warren on this list?  If no response, does anyone have an old email with his contact info so I can ask him how his rsync's are setup? Dave On 03/19/2018 0

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-19 Thread Dave Warren
Howdy. I'm on this list. Okay, so this is a bit odd, it looks like the file 1827131.tar.gz was actually modified by rsync many hours after the initial write: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:36:30 -0600 (MDT) .d..t.. ./ >f+ 1827131.tar.gz >f+ 1827131.tar.gz.asc >f+ 1827131

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-19 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I would guess you caught it mid copy and it arose because of the caching. Just a guess but glad we know what's going on. On Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 15:09 Dave Warren wrote: > Howdy. I'm on this list. > > Okay, so this is a bit odd, it looks like the file 1827131.tar.gz was > actually modified by rsyn

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-19 Thread Dave Warren
I'm going to keep a close eye on it for the next few days manually, and then decide if adding automated validation is worthwhile or not. Could you (whoever is responsible) add me back to the mirrors list? On 2018-03-19 13:36, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I would guess you caught it mid copy and it

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-19 Thread Dave Jones
On 03/19/2018 02:50 PM, Dave Warren wrote: I'm going to keep a close eye on it for the next few days manually, and then decide if adding automated validation is worthwhile or not. I enjoy this kind of scripting challenge so I may do this anyway just so we know if there are sa-update logs wit

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Dave Warren
Interestingly the file really is changing and wasn't just a poorly timed copy, check this out: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 02:38:08 -0600 (MDT), the files were created: .d..t.. ./ >f+ 1827165.tar.gz >f+ 1827165.tar.gz.asc >f+ 1827165.tar.gz.sha1 And the .sha1 hash valida

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Not sure what you mean. Original ticket was about 1827131.tar.gz -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Dave Warren wrote:

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Dave Warren
When I first set up my mirror, I was told "Because the items are release artifacts, they are never altered or removed, just added.", so I configured my caching around this design. This does not seem to be the case in general, it wasn't just a one-off problem on 1827131. Looking at the original

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
That is an interesting question because you are right, they are supposed to be immutable. Dave, is something happening in an 18 hour window as he describes? -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.link

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Bill Cole
On 20 Mar 2018, at 14:19, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: That is an interesting question because you are right, they are supposed to be immutable. Dave, is something happening in an 18 hour window as he describes? I'm not Dave, but I can see that interval in commit messages. Times are UTC-4: Fr

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Or creating it in a temporary location knowing it will be changed later. -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Bill Cole < sa-

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Dave Jones
On 03/20/2018 01:19 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: That is an interesting question because you are right, they are supposed to be immutable. Dave, is something happening in an 18 hour window as he describes? From what I learned trying to reconstruct everything about 10 months ago there are 2 up

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Dave Warren
On 2018-03-20 13:27, Dave Jones wrote: On 03/20/2018 01:19 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: That is an interesting question because you are right, they are supposed to be immutable.  Dave, is something happening in an 18 hour window as he describes? From what I learned trying to reconstruct ever

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Dave Jones
On 03/20/2018 02:59 PM, Dave Warren wrote: On 2018-03-20 13:27, Dave Jones wrote: On 03/20/2018 01:19 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: That is an interesting question because you are right, they are supposed to be immutable.  Dave, is something happening in an 18 hour window as he describes?  Fr

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-20 Thread Bill Cole
On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:18, Dave Jones wrote: [...] I thought they were different numbers. They should be. The SVN version number is shared across all Apache projects using SVN so hours later there should be a different SVN commit number between the tick and tock. But mkupdate-with-scores do

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-25 Thread Dave Jones
On 03/20/2018 06:18 PM, Bill Cole wrote: On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:18, Dave Jones wrote: [...] I thought they were different numbers. They should be.  The SVN version number is shared across all Apache projects using SVN so hours later there should be a different SVN commit number between the tic

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-26 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Until we have a good score file, while publish the file anyway? DNS should stay with the last known good file. I would generate the tick file some where temporary, then update it with the tock data and publish/update DNS. The mirrors shouldn't even see the temporary file. Thoughts? KAM That -

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-26 Thread Dave Warren
This seems to make sense from here (as a sysadmin. As a mirror operator I don't care). On 2018-03-26 14:46, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Until we have a good score file, while publish the file anyway? DNS should stay with the last known good file. I would generate the tick file some where temporary

Re: [Bug 7566] "SHA1 verification failed" for sa-update.razx.cloud since 1-2 weeks

2018-03-26 Thread Bill Cole
On 26 Mar 2018, at 16:46, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I would generate the tick file some where temporary, then update it with the tock data and publish/update DNS. The mirrors shouldn't even see the temporary file. Thoughts? I don't think the current model is seriously harmful, since the score