Re: [Syslog] -syslog-tc-mib Facilities

2007-06-22 Thread Glenn M. Keeni
Chris, Chris Lonvick wrote: Hi Folks, The discussion came up about the use of the Facilities in the -syslog-tc-mib document; are they normative or non-normative. David and I discussed this and have concluded that they are normative to the version of the protocol that we are now

RE: [Syslog] -syslog-tc-mib Facilities

2007-06-22 Thread Rainer Gerhards
The discussion came up about the use of the Facilities in the -syslog-tc-mib document; are they normative or non-normative. David and I discussed this and have concluded that they are normative to the version of the protocol that we are now discussing. That may be changed in the

Re: [Syslog] draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-21.txt: section 3 containsnew text to address ietf last call comments (fwd)

2007-06-22 Thread tom.petch
Glenn I think that the existing, already agreeed text in protocol-21 does give us a three way split in the stack. Looking at the ABNF, there is MSG which is prepended by additional fields to form SYSLOG-MSG which will in turn be prepended before the PDU is placed on the wire. So I can see a

Re: [Syslog] draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-21.txt: section 3 containsnew text to address ietf last call comments (fwd)

2007-06-22 Thread Glenn M. Keeni
Tom, I do understand the line of reasoning. But I do not agree with the conclusion. I agree that if we follow the ABNF we can have layers. [It does not limit us to three layers]. But a reality check says that we can have at most 2 significant layers. Significant from the point of view of