Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-25 Thread Eliot Lear
Miao Fuyou wrote: My perception is logging does not necesarily mean send events over network to syslog server,. Webopedia says log is "to record an action". If there is no syslog connection available, it is still possible to log the message in local storage. Right. The issue here, however, i

RE: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-25 Thread Miao Fuyou
> > There is also a matter of what an application is supposed > to do when > > logging fails. Some applications should proceed uninterrupted. > > Others may need to block. I don't know whether text is > appropriate. > > It's not part of the protocol, but it does fall under > common mode

RE: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-25 Thread Miao Fuyou
, 2007 3:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change > > [ re: DNS reverse mapping ] > > DNS is not secure, and isn't likely to be any time soon. > Using DNS as any sort of security measure is just plain stupid. > &g

Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-25 Thread Carson Gaspar
[ re: DNS reverse mapping ] DNS is not secure, and isn't likely to be any time soon. Using DNS as any sort of security measure is just plain stupid. Either the other party possesses the private key material that matches their public key or they don't. If they don't, SSL will fail. If they do,

Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-25 Thread Balazs Scheidler
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 09:42 +0200, Eliot Lear wrote: > Miao, > In addition, you have another problem in the text: > > >If the client is configured with IP address > >of the server, the hostname should be got first through a trusted > >mechanism such as a preconfigured hosts table or D

Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-24 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi, I'm OK with this proposal with two minor changes. - rather than "(see below)" it should have "(see next paragraph)" - remove parenthasis from "(with a bad certificate error)" as that text is normative. vv If the hostname does not match the identity in the certificate, clients SHOULD log

Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-24 Thread Eliot Lear
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:43 AM To: Miao Fuyou Cc: 'David Harrington'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change Miao, TLS is still duplex even if syslog is simplex. In the same time, authenticaiton happens in the

RE: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-24 Thread David Harrington
minate the need for the first two paragraphs? dbh > -Original Message- > From: Eliot Lear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:43 AM > To: Miao Fuyou > Cc: 'David Harrington'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft -

Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-24 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi, On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Eliot Lear wrote: Miao, TLS is still duplex even if syslog is simplex. In the same time, authenticaiton happens in the handshaking phase of TLS when syslog message transfering does not begin . So, simplex or duplex does not matter for authentication. I personally

Re: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-24 Thread Eliot Lear
Miao, TLS is still duplex even if syslog is simplex. In the same time, authenticaiton happens in the handshaking phase of TLS when syslog message transfering does not begin . So, simplex or duplex does not matter for authentication. I personally haven't liked those terms since 300 baud modems a

RE: [Syslog] Syslog-tls-09 draft - suggested change

2007-04-23 Thread Miao Fuyou
Hi, TLS is still duplex even if syslog is simplex. In the same time, authenticaiton happens in the handshaking phase of TLS when syslog message transfering does not begin . So, simplex or duplex does not matter for authentication. I had persuaded myself that syslog sender is always hosted on a