Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:37:47PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Is this flagged for the Fedora 15 release notes? > Why would it? It's just a statement of fact, as a warning. Thinks like Because to my knowledge it's never been said before, and if the project wants to draw a line in the san

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:41:11PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > really no good reason to split it off anyway. Folks who want to do ro > /usr are aiming too low, they should go for ro /. As I noted on the fedora-devel list, that's actually a functional reason for wanting a separate /usr: It'

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 25.02.11 13:09, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) said: > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:23:27PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new > > > policy we came up with here. It

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 25.02.11 11:22, Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:23:27PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new > > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to the user that setups > > like t

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Michael Biebl
2011/2/25 Kay Sievers : > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 20:12, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Kay Sievers (kay.siev...@vrfy.org) said: >>> >> > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new >>> >> > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to the user that >>> >> > setups >>> >

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 20:12, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Kay Sievers (kay.siev...@vrfy.org) said: >> >> > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new >> >> > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to the user that setups >> >> > like this will break. End of story.

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kay Sievers (kay.siev...@vrfy.org) said: > >> > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new > >> > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to the user that setups > >> > like this will break. End of story. > >> > >> Is this flagged for the Fedora 15 release notes?

Re: [systemd-devel] How can i disable bluetooth.service in fc15

2011-02-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 20:05, Miklos Vajna wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:39:49PM +0100, Rave it > wrote: >> i want to disable bluetooth.service in fedora 15 because i don't needed. >> Normaly i removed bluez but now a days bluez have gnome-shell as an >> dependency. >> I try to do this wi

Re: [systemd-devel] How can i disable bluetooth.service in fc15

2011-02-25 Thread Miklos Vajna
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:39:49PM +0100, Rave it wrote: > i want to disable bluetooth.service in fedora 15 because i don't needed. > Normaly i removed bluez but now a days bluez have gnome-shell as an > dependency. > I try to do this with: > [root@mother rave]# systemctl stop bluetooth.service >

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 19:09, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) said: >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:23:27PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new >> > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) said: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:23:27PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new > > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to the user that setups > > like this will break. End of story

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Adam Spragg
On Friday 25 Feb 2011 13:35:14 Adam Spragg wrote: > On Friday 25 Feb 2011 13:00:51 Andrey Borzenkov wrote: > > Commit > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=80758717a6359cbe6048f43a17 > > c 2b53a3ca8c2fa declared separate /usr unsupported. What is really the > > reason for it? > > This

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:35:14PM +, Adam Spragg wrote: > > Are there any bug reports that lead to this decision? > No idea, but given that there are probably a fair few systems out there which > currently have a separate /usr, I predict quite a few bug reports because of > this change... h

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Adam Spragg
On Friday 25 Feb 2011 13:00:51 Andrey Borzenkov wrote: > Commit > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=80758717a6359cbe6048f43a17c > 2b53a3ca8c2fa declared separate /usr unsupported. What is really the reason > for it? This does seem odd. Might I also point out... >From

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:23:27PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to the user that setups > like this will break. End of story. Is this flagged for the Fedora 15 release notes

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 25.02.11 16:00, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > Commit > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=80758717a6359cbe6048f43a17c2b53a3ca8c2fa > declared separate /usr unsupported. What is really the reason for it? It's just acknowledgment of the status quo. And most up

[systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
Commit http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=80758717a6359cbe6048f43a17c2b53a3ca8c2fa declared separate /usr unsupported. What is really the reason for it? Are there any bug reports that lead to this decision? What are existing systems supposed to do on update? Complete reformatting and

Re: [systemd-devel] how disable fsck on swap+lvm

2011-02-25 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Miklos Vajna wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 02:17:02PM +0300, Alexey Shabalin > wrote: >> >> For replace rc.sysinit, may be make like rc.sysinit: >> >> first run multipath, second mdadm, and last lvm services. >> > >> > That is exactly what fedora-storage-init