Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:17:08PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: I need some help with a problem. I'm currently using Fedora 16, but without a display manager. I log into a text-mode VT (usually tty1) and run startx manually. The display uses tty7

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Dave Reisner
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:32:43AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:17:08PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: I need some help with a problem. I'm currently using Fedora 16, but without a display manager. I log into a text-mode

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: You'll need to start X on the same VT that you logged in on. If it's tty1, then: startx -- vt01 That's a reasonable workaround, but it's not a real fix. Why isn't it a real fix? It's simply different semantics from consolekit. If you

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Alan Stern at 27/08/12 16:53 did gyre and gimble: On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: You'll need to start X on the same VT that you logged in on. If it's tty1, then: startx -- vt01 That's a reasonable workaround, but it's not a real fix. Why isn't it a real fix?

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:32:47 +0100 Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: It's not really as simple as that these days. In order to do things cleanly (and from what I understand the CK way was certainly far from clean), you really need to use some kind of login agent. Typically this