Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Holger Winkelmann wrote: > I'm just following this discussion and would ask the developer to keep the > embedded folks in mind. Embedded systems hardly have all the dependencies > available or even phyton but need a debug tool too. So far I know systemd > will a

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 01:16:24AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 03:55:42PM -0800, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: >> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Reindl Harald >> > wrote: >> > > Am 15.01.2

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 03:55:42PM -0800, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >> > Am 15.01.2013 00:00, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: >> >> On Monday 2013-01-14 23:44, Reindl Harald wro

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Holger Winkelmann
Hi, I'm just following this discussion and would ask the developer to keep the embedded folks in mind. Embedded systems hardly have all the dependencies available or even phyton but need a debug tool too. So far I know systemd will address this embedded UseCases as well. Holger -- Holger W

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 02:50, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 02:15:42AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 15.01.2013 02:06, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: honestyl i have often seen such cross-deps freeing up around 100 MB, on a virtual infrastructure

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 02:15:42AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 15.01.2013 02:06, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > >> honestyl i have often seen such cross-deps freeing up > >> around 100 MB, on a virtual infrastructure multiplied > >> with 30 we are at 300 MB and additionally the b

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 02:06, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: >> honestyl i have often seen such cross-deps freeing up >> around 100 MB, on a virtual infrastructure multiplied >> with 30 we are at 300 MB and additionally the benefit >> besides only the storage is: > C'mon, 100 MB? 12% of the size of

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 01:43:52AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 15.01.2013 01:34, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > It doesn't. Graphical libraries are loaded only when used. > > > > Of course systemd-analyze is _packaged_ as dependent on graphical > > libraries, because the split

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 01:34, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > It doesn't. Graphical libraries are loaded only when used. > > Of course systemd-analyze is _packaged_ as dependent on graphical > libraries, because the split to save a few megabytes on a server > installation is not worth the maintain

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 01:23:00AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 15.01.2013 01:16, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > >> I don't think it's as bad as you portray it, but I have an intern > >> software engineer that I will be making systemd-analyze (the non-plot > >> parts - the plot pa

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 01:16:24AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 03:55:42PM -0800, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Reindl Harald > > wrote: > > > Am 15.01.2013 00:00, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: > > >> On Monday 2013-01-14 23:44, Reind

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 01:16, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: >> I don't think it's as bad as you portray it, but I have an intern >> software engineer that I will be making systemd-analyze (the non-plot >> parts - the plot parts should be replaced by bootchart IMO) rewrite in >> C, so hopefully we c

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 03:55:42PM -0800, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 15.01.2013 00:00, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: > >> On Monday 2013-01-14 23:44, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >>> what does systemd-analyze try to tell me? > >>> systemd-197 its

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 00:55, schrieb Kok: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: what does systemd-analyze try to tell me? systemd-197 itself works fine [root@testserver:~]$ systemd-analyze Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/systemd-analyze"

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.01.2013 00:00, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: >> On Monday 2013-01-14 23:44, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> what does systemd-analyze try to tell me? >>> systemd-197 itself works fine >>> >>> [root@testserver:~]$ systemd-analyze >>> Traceback (mo

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.01.2013 00:00, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: >> python is telling you about a missing (python) module named >> gi.repository > > but > > * where does it comre from (gi.repository doe snot tell me anything) > * when was it introduced http://

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 00:00, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: > On Monday 2013-01-14 23:44, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> what does systemd-analyze try to tell me? >> systemd-197 itself works fine >> >> [root@testserver:~]$ systemd-analyze >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/bin/systemd-analyze", li

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Monday 2013-01-14 23:44, Reindl Harald wrote: >what does systemd-analyze try to tell me? >systemd-197 itself works fine > >[root@testserver:~]$ systemd-analyze >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/systemd-analyze", line 23, in >from gi.repository import Gio >ImportError: N

[systemd-devel] systemd-analyze-197 broken

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
what does systemd-analyze try to tell me? systemd-197 itself works fine [root@testserver:~]$ systemd-analyze Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/systemd-analyze", line 23, in from gi.repository import Gio ImportError: No module named gi.repository [root@testserver:~]$ rpm -qa