Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/23/2015 12:43 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Just to clarify that. I think EnvironmentFile= was a mistake, and I explained why. But then again, I am not planning to remove it, and I never suggested that. What usescases do you see for it's existence. FYI the longer you take fixing your m

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd (user) and (sd-pam) (user) processes in login shell

2015-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2015 um 01:45 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Tue, 22.12.15 01:36, Kai Krakow (hurikha...@gmail.com) wrote: Am Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:36:01 +0200 schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas : What uid does "oracle" have – is it within the system account range (usually 1–999) or user account (1000–)? I won

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2015 um 01:32 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Fri, 18.12.15 17:00, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: I do think that overriding the complete ExecStart= line is usually suboptimal and not what you want if you just want to pass additional options to the daemon. Maybe a good middl

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.12.2015 um 01:24 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Thu, 10.12.15 16:20, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: Am 10.12.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: If you are unaware of any other use case for it EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/httpd ExecStart=/usr/sbin/httpd $OP

Re: [systemd-devel] Policy Routing on a machine using systemd-networkd

2015-12-22 Thread Brendan Horan
- On 20 Dec, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Marc Haber mh+systemd-de...@zugschlus.de wrote: > *nudge* > > Is there really no option about this rather common issue? Maybe you can post your work around for policy routing? (if you have one) I would love to know as well. > > Greetings > Marc > > > On

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd (user) and (sd-pam) (user) processes in login shell

2015-12-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 22.12.15 01:36, Kai Krakow (hurikha...@gmail.com) wrote: > Am Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:36:01 +0200 > schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas : > > > What uid does "oracle" have – is it within the system account range > > (usually 1–999) or user account (1000–)? I wonder if it's the latter, > > which would mea

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 22.12.15 11:27, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > > Am 22.12.2015 um 00:16 schrieb Kai Krakow: > >Back to concepts: I'm always trying to find my way through the new > >ideas, trying to understand it instead of denying it, then re-apply my > >workflow. If it doesn't fit, t

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 20.12.15 14:30, Marc Haber (mh+systemd-de...@zugschlus.de) wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 05:00:32PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > and then tell admin to use systemctl edit > > [Unit] > > Environment=OPTS=-baz > > How would I do the equivalent of systemctl edit with a declarative > co

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 18.12.15 17:00, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > I do think that overriding the complete ExecStart= line is usually > suboptimal and not what you want if you just want to pass additional > options to the daemon. > > Maybe a good middle ground / recommendation for such daemons wou

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 10.12.15 16:20, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > Am 10.12.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > >If you are unaware of any other use case for it > > EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/httpd > ExecStart=/usr/sbin/httpd $OPTIONS -D FOREGROUND > > [root@testserver:~]

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 21.12.15 22:41, Marc Haber (mh+systemd-de...@zugschlus.de) wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 10:18:05PM +0100, Kai Krakow wrote: > > Thus: Please maintainers and developers, remove it. Do not let Lennart > > remove this useful option to force others into removing your shitty > > cruft. > >

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd (user) and (sd-pam) (user) processes in login shell

2015-12-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:43:24 -0500 > schrieb Mike Gilbert : > >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Kai Krakow >> wrote: >> > Am Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:36:01 +0200 >> > schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas : >> > >> >> What uid does "oracle" have – is it within

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/21/2015 04:36 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: 2015-12-21 17:30 GMT+01:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : It's an added work to add the environmental line to begin with and it's an That would be done once, by upstream ideally. The work would be negligible. Still an added work either upstream/downstre

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd (user) and (sd-pam) (user) processes in login shell

2015-12-22 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:43 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > > Am Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:36:01 +0200 > > schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas : > > > >> What uid does "oracle" have – is it within the system account range > >> (usually 1–999) or user account (1000–)

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd (user) and (sd-pam) (user) processes in login shell

2015-12-22 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:36:01 +0200 > schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas : > > > What uid does "oracle" have – is it within the system account range > > (usually 1–999) or user account (1000–)? I wonder if it's the latter, > > which would mean systemd-logi

Re: [systemd-devel] DSC-statistics-collector fails to start

2015-12-22 Thread Federico Olivieri
Sorry guys, I'm new in this mailing-list. The debug output suggested this mail-chain for support. Anyway, don't worry, I' ll find out in some way :) Federico 2015-12-22 10:57 GMT+00:00 Mantas Mikulėnas : > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Federico Olivieri > wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> >> I w

Re: [systemd-devel] DSC-statistics-collector fails to start

2015-12-22 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Federico Olivieri wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I was wondering if someone has experience with DSC DNS collector. Since > last week, it fails to start in my server. Below the log output. No idea > what it could be the problem (I had a look into the script indicated

[systemd-devel] DSC-statistics-collector fails to start

2015-12-22 Thread Federico Olivieri
Hi everybody, I was wondering if someone has experience with DSC DNS collector. Since last week, it fails to start in my server. Below the log output. No idea what it could be the problem (I had a look into the script indicated into the log message but for me seems ok) Anyone has any clue? :) Than

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.12.2015 um 00:16 schrieb Kai Krakow: Back to concepts: I'm always trying to find my way through the new ideas, trying to understand it instead of denying it, then re-apply my workflow. If it doesn't fit, throw either that away, or the software. Probably one of many reasons why I chose Gen