Re: [systemd-devel] my Ubuntu server sleep mode by Itself often

2018-11-30 Thread Peter Hoeg
I am not sure if this is some grade A trolling or a massive language barrier issue but can someone who speaks french possibly reach out to Dorian and explain the purpose of the list? And if that doesn't change the behaviour we should simply block/ban him. -- Regards, Peter On 18-11-30 at 21:0

[systemd-devel] my Ubuntu server sleep mode by Itself often

2018-11-30 Thread Dorian ROSSE
Dear IT worker, Do you know why a old smart server return back to server mode from desktop mode want to sleep down often ? Thank you in advance to answer if you have an answer and to don’t be hungry if you think I Junk the systemd mailing list, Regards. Dorian ROSSE. ___

Re: [systemd-devel] Environment-variable security?

2018-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 30.11.18 19:57, Marek Howard (marek...@gmail.com) wrote: > > Well, you don't know what libraries and code you use do in the > > background. You know, what you you are doing is simply not how you do > > security. When you do security you restrict access as much as you can, > > you limit prop

Re: [systemd-devel] Environment-variable security?

2018-11-30 Thread Marek Howard
Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 30. 11. 2018 v 18:16 +0100: > On Fr, 30.11.18 17:04, Marek Howard (marek...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I understand, but that's by design and there's nothing wrong with that. > > It's even useful for the case where you want wrap a thing with a > > script. > > > > I still do

Re: [systemd-devel] Environment-variable security?

2018-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 30.11.18 17:04, Marek Howard (marek...@gmail.com) wrote: > Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 30. 11. 2018 v 14:53 +0100: > > On Fr, 30.11.18 14:25, Marek Howard (marek...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > - Lennart keeps repeating that passing secrets via environment variable > > > is insecure becaus

Re: [systemd-devel] Environment-variable security?

2018-11-30 Thread Marek Howard
Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 30. 11. 2018 v 14:53 +0100: > On Fr, 30.11.18 14:25, Marek Howard (marek...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > - Lennart keeps repeating that passing secrets via environment variable > > is insecure because they are passed down the process tree. They are, if > > you choose so in

Re: [systemd-devel] Environment-variable security?

2018-11-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 30.11.18 14:25, Marek Howard (marek...@gmail.com) wrote: > - Lennart keeps repeating that passing secrets via environment variable > is insecure because they are passed down the process tree. They are, if > you choose so in execve(), they are also readable by other processes > running under

Re: [systemd-devel] Environment-variable security?

2018-11-30 Thread Marek Howard
Marek Howard píše v Pá 30. 11. 2018 v 14:25 +0100: > Give me one solid reason why it's insecure to pass passwords via > environment variables please. So far it seems that systemd just broke > this concept for no valid reason and now you try to defend with > completely unrelated reasons. There were

Re: [systemd-devel] Environment-variable security?

2018-11-30 Thread Marek Howard
David Parsley píše v St 14. 11. 2018 v 08:45 -0500: > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 3:43 AM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > I mean, seriously, people do lots of stuff. It doesn't mean that all > > what people do is actually a good idea or just safe. > > Certainly agreed on this point. It is my beli