Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-20 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
s and any other features or singularities about them, shows up. To find this on linux, I need to take a look at the documentation for the driver, which isn't standardized. But, again, this is just a dream. If one day I could make it into a reality, then gre

Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-19 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
my intention, since I'm not a kernel nor systemd hacker. I can read the code, possibly understand it and even perhaps make some minor changes. But I don't believe I have the skill set for this kind of major revamp. I was just reminiscing. Never mind. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini

Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-19 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
t is the case with the BSD's. More specifically, OpenBSD. Their naming system based on the driver being used by the network card is simple, elegant and clean. I wonder if this would be hard to implement. Of course the better way would be for it to go into the kernel, no

Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
in it. Sorry for the noise and if I stepped on anyone's toes. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
the start is doomed to fail in the > long run In my first e-mail I said this could be an option handle to udevd used set by people that (hopefully) understands what he/she is doing. Not necessarily could be a default. It was just a proposition. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini smime.p7s Descript

Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
ce. Of course systemd should *never* mess with an interface *after* system initialization. But it can do anything *right after* the initramfs hand the control to systemd. Of course except if the interface is up for a nfsroot. In this case the renaming shouldn't happen. But this is an

Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
t be affected by this discussion. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini smime.p7s Description: Assinatura criptográfica S/MIME ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
le network interface naming, which is the current default, you can safely make your network configuration use the changed interfaces names to be sure they'll get the desired interface. This applies to network configuration, firewall rules, whatever. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini smime.p7

Re: [systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Also, I know that early userspace networking isn't common place, but it has many applications, as those hooks show. I'd be happy to give a try in making a patch, but I wanted first to get some input from you guys. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini __

[systemd-devel] Udev won't rename interfaces that are already UP

2015-02-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
e the interface regardless of it state, since the early userspace interface configuration shouldn't matter after the root is pivoted and systemd is started. This could be the default or even configurable. What are your thoughts on this? Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini ___