Re: [systemd-devel] yum-updateonboot with Systemd

2011-07-21 Thread Matthew Miller
ough, regardless how "movable" > your machine is. What "as well as possible" might be is a matter of policy. In many cases, "please wait until the network is fixed, then continue" is absolutely the best reaction. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org

Re: [systemd-devel] yum-updateonboot with Systemd

2011-07-21 Thread Matthew Miller
summer. When it comes back on, you don't want it to be instantly rooted with the big exploit that was patched in July but not yet applied on this system since it was off. Ideally, you do what you're suggesting, but you also want to cover the other side too. -- Matthew Miller

Re: [systemd-devel] yum-updateonboot with Systemd

2011-07-21 Thread Matthew Miller
rather than trying to shoehorn it in to the general startup. In fact, to be safe, I can imagine a startup procedure where sysupdates.target is the boot default, and when that completes it switches to multiuser.target (via isolate, or even via kexec if a new kernel is requi

Re: [systemd-devel] yum-updateonboot with Systemd

2011-07-20 Thread Matthew Miller
service starts earlier but can be restarted with the updated version before it is actually accessible, that is fine.) Is this possible with systemd? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ s

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd - move /selinux to /sys/fs/selinux - maybe remove /srv ?

2011-04-28 Thread Matthew Miller
ence of this directory besides FHS conformance? Yes. It's where to put non-transient service data that does not belong to a user, and does not belong to a package. -- Matthew Miller Senior Systems Architect -- Instructional & Research Computing Services Harva

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-03-03 Thread Matthew Miller
ut. Basically all you are doing is asking for people to yell at you. :) -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] rc-local.service ordering

2011-03-01 Thread Matthew Miller
dmins who want to start something in a kludgy get-it-going-on boot way *exactly* want to avoid thinking about ordering. That's what rc.local is *for*. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ system

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
draw a line in the sand and make that declaration, it should be officially said somewhere. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://list

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
packages may or may not also entail changes to /etc, of course.) -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
gt; this change... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=644868 This was fixed, and since then it seems to have been working fine on my test system with this configuration. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/>

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
or the Fedora 15 release notes? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] bootup event sounds

2011-02-09 Thread Matthew Miller
el - Messiah - Hallelujah Chorus -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Services enabled by default?

2010-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
ch is useful for other non-system-level tasks as well. -- Matthew Miller Senior Systems Architect -- Instructional & Research Computing Services Harvard School of Engineering & Applied Sciences ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@li

Re: [systemd-devel] Services enabled by default?

2010-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:13:20AM -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Maybe integrate it into systemd? It's one single .c file as far as I > could check. What's the advantage of making this monolithic? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org &l

Re: [systemd-devel] Services enabled by default?

2010-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
ter every installation of > systemd :-/ Or, conversely, why not enable 12 by default? > - should we provide a "clean /tmp" service? At boot, or scheduled? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> __

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v9

2010-09-13 Thread Matthew Miller
for this exact reason. :) Unfortunately, there are some technical hurdles to doing that. So for now, if you could tag and fire off both builds, it'd help increase the testing of new systemd builds. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> __

Re: Running a systemd-based Gentoo system

2010-09-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 08:28:09AM -0500, Jack Byer wrote: > If you mean "no, there are no plans to support that" then please just say so > plainly. The two examples you've listed are supported already. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org

Re: [systemd-devel] bash autocompletion

2010-09-04 Thread Matthew Miller
odo list but I haven't gotten to it yet. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] hello (and, a documentation patch)

2010-09-02 Thread Matthew Miller
solate show $t|grep -q 'yes' && echo $t ; done but that's way more awk than should be necessary. And as I understand it, --all still won't list everything. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> _

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v9

2010-09-02 Thread Matthew Miller
e got no problem doing it myself for my own system, but it seems good in general. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedeskt

[systemd-devel] hello (and, a documentation patch)

2010-08-31 Thread Matthew Miller
7;ve got a suggested patch to expand the documentation a bit, hopefully making it more clear to new systemd users. Is there an easy way to list all units where AllowIsolate is enabled? That should be included alongside this, I think. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm