[systemd-devel] [HEADSUP] nspawn/networkd: moving from iptables to nftables

2015-05-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
Heya, just a small heads-up: Currently there are two firewall APIs used on Linux: iptables and nftables. iptables is the older one, nftables the new replacement. systemd-nspawn and systemd-networkd currently interface with iptables via the libiptc library: nspawn to implement the --port= switch f

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADSUP] nspawn/networkd: moving from iptables to nftables

2015-06-01 Thread Ian Pilcher
Is this going to make nspawn/networkd fundamentally incompatible with distributions that use iptables-based tools (such as firewalld)? -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com "I g

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADSUP] nspawn/networkd: moving from iptables to nftables

2015-06-01 Thread Daniel Mack
On 06/01/2015 10:11 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Is this going to make nspawn/networkd fundamentally incompatible with > distributions that use iptables-based tools (such as firewalld)? No, nftables and iptables can peacefully coexist. With nftables though, systemd can have a table of its own, and hen

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADSUP] nspawn/networkd: moving from iptables to nftables

2015-06-02 Thread Dominick Grift
I have been told that iptable_nat module conflicts with nftables "You cannot use iptables and nft to perform NAT at the same time. So make sure that the iptable_nat module is unloaded" source: http://wiki.nftables.org/wiki-nftables/index.php/Performing_Network_Address_Translation_%28NAT%29 --

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADSUP] nspawn/networkd: moving from iptables to nftables

2015-06-02 Thread Daurnimator
On 2 June 2015 at 06:11, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Is this going to make nspawn/networkd fundamentally incompatible with > distributions that use iptables-based tools (such as firewalld)? nftables provides a backward compatible 'iptables' command. Most services (including firewalld) just use the 'ipta

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADSUP] nspawn/networkd: moving from iptables to nftables

2015-10-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Fri, 29 May 2015 17:49:12 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Yes, we are aware this is unfortunate, and that many people are still > using iptables. For this reason we would like to make the switch quickly > to ensure not too many users start using the iptables hook-up before it > goes away. Is