Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-28 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Mike Kazantsev at 28/08/12 00:55 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:32:47 +0100 Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: It's not really as simple as that these days. In order to do things cleanly (and from what I understand the CK way was certainly far from

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-28 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 28/08/12 13:10 did gyre and gimble: gdm, but it's nature will register sessions with type=x11 and login with type=tty - that's the only reason I suggested gdm as a basis here.. arguably it would make more sense to tweak login (or perhaps agetty as it already

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:17:08PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: I need some help with a problem. I'm currently using Fedora 16, but without a display manager. I log into a text-mode VT (usually tty1) and run startx manually. The display uses tty7

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Dave Reisner
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:32:43AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:17:08PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: I need some help with a problem. I'm currently using Fedora 16, but without a display manager. I log into a text-mode

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: You'll need to start X on the same VT that you logged in on. If it's tty1, then: startx -- vt01 That's a reasonable workaround, but it's not a real fix. Why isn't it a real fix? It's simply different semantics from consolekit. If you

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Alan Stern at 27/08/12 16:53 did gyre and gimble: On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: You'll need to start X on the same VT that you logged in on. If it's tty1, then: startx -- vt01 That's a reasonable workaround, but it's not a real fix. Why isn't it a real fix?

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:32:47 +0100 Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: It's not really as simple as that these days. In order to do things cleanly (and from what I understand the CK way was certainly far from clean), you really need to use some kind of login agent. Typically this

[systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-26 Thread Alan Stern
I need some help with a problem. I'm currently using Fedora 16, but without a display manager. I log into a text-mode VT (usually tty1) and run startx manually. The display uses tty7 and works fine. But systemd isn't aware of it, or at least, isn't aware that my login session now owns tty7.