Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.05.11 08:55, Scott James Remnant (sc...@netsplit.com) wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.netwrote: Note that you need to delay execution of user code after the base system is set up anyway, in order to ensure that the right perms are

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 19:52, Scott James Remnant (sc...@netsplit.com) wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: Well, right now let's make clear that Firefox/Chromium or other X clients won't be started by systemd as they are user

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-10 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: I'm not following all the user-session discussion, but AFAIU this management will be done by the same code, but not same process (it's not PID1). PAM (or another entity that has a role in the

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.05.11 09:25, Scott James Remnant (sc...@netsplit.com) wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: I'm not following all the user-session discussion, but AFAIU this management will be done by the same code, but not same

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread microcai
于 2011年05月10日 00:10, Scott James Remnant 写道: Hey, I've been reading through the documentation on systemd and the Mailing List Archives and have had some questions, so I figured I'd post them here. These might be fairly complicated or unusual cases, and there may be no good answers now, and

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
Hi Scott, Some answers below, but consider reading Lennart's reply first. I'll try to cover some points he did not in his reply. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Scott James Remnant sc...@netsplit.comwrote: Hey, I've been reading through the documentation on systemd and the Mailing List

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 16:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri (barbi...@profusion.mobi) wrote: But I do agree with you an a way to state our priorities would be awesome. This is what Lennart said about a future way to feed it to kernel. I suggested some hackish way some time ago: I actually discussed

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 16:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri (barbi...@profusion.mobi) wrote: Well, right now let's make clear that Firefox/Chromium or other X clients won't be started by systemd as they are user session applications, and systemd itself will just deal with system context (ie: up to

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Mon, 09.05.11 16:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri (barbi...@profusion.mobi) wrote: Well, right now let's make clear that Firefox/Chromium or other X clients won't be started by systemd as they are user session