Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: integrate biosdevname into systemd tree

2013-01-04 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Koen Kooi wrote: > Op 4 jan. 2013, om 10:54 heeft Reindl Harald het > volgende geschreven: >> Am 04.01.2013 10:40, schrieb Alexander E. Patrakov: >>> 2013/1/4 Reindl Harald : but hopefully /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules will be recognized fore

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: integrate biosdevname into systemd tree

2013-01-04 Thread Koen Kooi
Op 4 jan. 2013, om 10:54 heeft Reindl Harald het volgende geschreven: > > > Am 04.01.2013 10:40, schrieb Alexander E. Patrakov: >> 2013/1/4 Reindl Harald : >>> but hopefully /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules will be recognized >>> forever if it exists because there are many servers es

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: integrate biosdevname into systemd tree

2013-01-04 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > What worries me now is that I was able to learn about the recommended > replacement (biosdevname) only via IRC, from Kay Sievers. There are no > pointers to biosdevname in any documentation that comes with > systemd-196. How are dist

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: integrate biosdevname into systemd tree

2013-01-04 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2013/1/4 Reindl Harald : > how can something like this be unreliable? > hwaddresses does not change randomly > > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{address}=="00:50:56:bd:00:04", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", > ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" Good question, and it hits the

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: integrate biosdevname into systemd tree

2013-01-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2013 10:40, schrieb Alexander E. Patrakov: > 2013/1/4 Reindl Harald : >> but hopefully /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules will be recognized >> forever if it exists because there are many servers especially virtual >> ones where you hardly need to control ethernet device names to

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: integrate biosdevname into systemd tree

2013-01-04 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2013/1/4 Reindl Harald : > but hopefully /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules will be recognized > forever if it exists because there are many servers especially virtual > ones where you hardly need to control ethernet device names to avoid > breaking iptables-scripts as example Yes, the exis

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: integrate biosdevname into systemd tree

2013-01-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2013 10:02, schrieb Alexander E. Patrakov: > [Yes I know that this mail is several months too late, but better late > then never. Also it is too verbose.] > > As of systemd-189, the persistent rule generators for network cards > were removed. They did serve a purpose - they prevented th