Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-06 Thread ScotXW
On 11/05/2013 10:18 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:49:03PM +0100, ScotXW wrote: It is a pity that nobody on this entire list, wants to give me some concrete ideas for the numbers 1 to 8 in the scheme [1]. :-O Probably because this list is about systemd. Your question is off

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:49:03PM +0100, ScotXW wrote: > It is a pity that nobody on this entire list, wants to give me some > concrete ideas for the numbers 1 to 8 in the scheme [1]. :-O Probably because this list is about systemd. Your question is offtopic. -- Regards, Olav __

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-05 Thread ScotXW
On 11/05/2013 01:06 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Tuesday 2013-11-05 00:19, ScotXW wrote: On 11/05/2013 12:01 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Most of this is just misleading, plain wrong or backwards. Systemd is not in-between the kernel and applications, especially not for the ones you listed. [Yes is

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-05 Thread ScotXW
On 11/05/2013 12:44 AM, Greg KH wrote: On 11/05/2013 12:01 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Why do "we" have to do anything here? You are trying to document something that has been documented numerous times before, for no valid reason why it needs to be documented in this manner in the first place. It

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Tuesday 2013-11-05 00:28, ScotXW wrote: >> >> Seems rather strange to find GRUB and Linux in "BIOS". >> And if you talk about Uboot and Redboot and whatever else, then >> marking the orange section as "GRUB" is sorta outta place. > > Linux kernel and GNU GRUB can be payloads to coreboot. That

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Tuesday 2013-11-05 00:19, ScotXW wrote: > On 11/05/2013 12:01 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: >> Most of this is just misleading, plain wrong or backwards. Systemd is >> not in-between the kernel and applications, especially not for the >> ones you listed. >[Yes is it] > Y-axes represents the time How

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 12:19:27AM +0100, ScotXW wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/05/2013 12:01 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: > > Most of this is just misleading, plain wrong or backwards. Systemd is > > not in-between the kernel and applications, especially not for the > > ones you listed. > > Yes it is, during

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread ScotXW
Hi, On 11/05/2013 12:01 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Most of this is just misleading, plain wrong or backwards. Systemd is not in-between the kernel and applications, especially not for the ones you listed. Yes it is, during the startup process! Y-axes represents the time, i.e. the start of systemd

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread ScotXW
On 11/04/2013 11:55 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Monday 2013-11-04 23:48, ScotXW wrote: Hi, I created this [1] scheme. Can you help fill in the blank? I know there is very extensive documentation about systemd, it is way too extensive for my purposes, the home user. [1] https://commons.wikime

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:48 PM, ScotXW wrote: > I created this [1] scheme. Can you help fill in the blank? I know there is > very extensive documentation about systemd, it is way too extensive for my > purposes, the home user. Most of this is just misleading, plain wrong or backwards. Systemd is

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Monday 2013-11-04 23:48, ScotXW wrote: > Hi, > > I created this [1] scheme. Can you help fill in the blank? I know there is > very > extensive documentation about systemd, it is way too extensive for my > purposes, > the home user. > > [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linux_startup

[systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread ScotXW
Hi, I created this [1] scheme. Can you help fill in the blank? I know there is very extensive documentation about systemd, it is way too extensive for my purposes, the home user. Regards, ScotX [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linux_startup_process_wip.svg