Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-11-06 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 22.10.2014 21:08, Tobias Hunger wrote: Hi Lennart, On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Sorry for the late response, been travelling for a month, and then have been more travelling, and still trying to process all the mails that queued up

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-11-06 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 09.09.2014 17:01, Colin Guthrie wrote: Tobias Hunger wrote on 05/09/14 19:34: Any place that you would care to recomend? It would suck to have each distro put kernels somewhere else. Good question. On Mageia and Fedora (at least originally, not sure if it's changed recently), the

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-10-23 Thread Tobias Hunger
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: snip Correct. I can see that for some uses this might appear as overkill, but in general I would not make much of a distinction between the kernel and the basic userspace here, they really belong together. I

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-10-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 05.09.14 20:34, Tobias Hunger (tobias.hun...@gmail.com) wrote: Heya, Sorry for the late response, been travelling for a month, and then have been more travelling, and still trying to process all the mails that queued up since. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Lennart Poettering

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-10-22 Thread Tobias Hunger
Hi Lennart, On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Sorry for the late response, been travelling for a month, and then have been more travelling, and still trying to process all the mails that queued up since. No problem at all:-) On Fri, Sep 5,

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-10-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 22.10.14 21:08, Tobias Hunger (tobias.hun...@gmail.com) wrote: My idea would be that the initrd contains that info. Each usr tree comes with one initrd, and that initrd knows which usr tree to boot. That implies that each installation snapshot must come with an initrd, even if the

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-09-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
Simon McVittie wrote on 09/09/14 19:02: Inside there would be a: /usr/lib/kernel/kernel-version/modules/ folder containing the actual modules (same as /lib/modules/kernel-version/kernel/) This seems like moving things around for the sake of moving things around. If Fedora, Debian and

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-09-09 Thread Colin Guthrie
Tobias Hunger wrote on 05/09/14 19:34: Any place that you would care to recomend? It would suck to have each distro put kernels somewhere else. Good question. On Mageia and Fedora (at least originally, not sure if it's changed recently), the modules are in: /lib/modules/kernel-version/ tree.

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-09-09 Thread Simon McVittie
On 09/09/14 16:01, Colin Guthrie wrote: On Mageia and Fedora (at least originally, not sure if it's changed recently), the modules are in: /lib/modules/kernel-version/ tree. ... The actual modules are stored in a: /lib/modules/kernel-version/kernel/ subfolder. It's the same on Debian and

[systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-09-05 Thread Tobias Hunger
Hi I have read http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html with interest and since I am using a home-grown image based installation scheme anyway, I would like to try and move that closer to the proposal from the systemd cabal. It is pretty easy to create the

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-09-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 05.09.14 16:19, Tobias Hunger (tobias.hun...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi I have read http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html with interest and since I am using a home-grown image based installation scheme anyway, I would like to try and move that closer

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-09-05 Thread Tobias Hunger
Hi Lennart, thanks for taking the time to reply! On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Yeah, we want to encourage distros to install kernels into /usr, somewhere next to where the kmods already are, and then copy that over where necessary into the

Re: [systemd-devel] So how am I supposed to put together my Linux system?

2014-09-05 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 08:34:56PM +0200, Tobias Hunger wrote: I see that secure boot wants one file and that you will need to merge kernel and initrd into one. But you will need the meta data to link the kernel/initrd combo to a combination of root-subvolume and usr-subvolume. IIRC chromeos