Re: [systemd-devel] rc-local.service ordering

2011-03-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 10.03.11 13:58, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Wed, 02.03.11 00:07, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> Have you actually read what I wrote? > >> > >> "Now, I do not care much about

Re: [systemd-devel] rc-local.service ordering

2011-03-10 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 02.03.11 00:07, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Have you actually read what I wrote? >> >> "Now, I do not care much about rc-sysinit itself. But I do care that >> services that we want to be started late are *r

Re: [systemd-devel] rc-local.service ordering

2011-03-01 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 02.03.11 00:07, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > Have you actually read what I wrote? > > "Now, I do not care much about rc-sysinit itself. But I do care that > services that we want to be started late are *really* started late." > > Currently I have impression that rc-loc

Re: [systemd-devel] rc-local.service ordering

2011-03-01 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 09:47:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> I think the rc-local is a broken concept: the semantics of having a >> service running after everything else are just broken, and usually just >> something people want to

Re: [systemd-devel] rc-local.service ordering

2011-03-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 09:47:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I think the rc-local is a broken concept: the semantics of having a > service running after everything else are just broken, and usually just > something people want to do to avoid thinking about ordering. Yes! Sysadmins who w

Re: [systemd-devel] rc-local.service ordering

2011-03-01 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 01.03.11 10:34, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > Historically rc.local was supposed to be run very late (last) in > startup sequence; and systemd implicitly relies on it (at least, on > fedora-like systems) implicitly ordering many things "to be done late" > afetr rc-sysinit

[systemd-devel] rc-local.service ordering

2011-02-28 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
Historically rc.local was supposed to be run very late (last) in startup sequence; and systemd implicitly relies on it (at least, on fedora-like systems) implicitly ordering many things "to be done late" afetr rc-sysinit.service. Looking at startup debug log, this assumption is wrong. There are ma