Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 15.09.13 17:26, Koen Kooi (k...@dominion.thruhere.net) wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Koen Kooi > > wrote: > >> Please keep in mind that pstore is x86 only. EFI isn't x86 only, but > >> exceedingly rare outside of that arch. > > > > What? Pstore itself isn't. It's a gener

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-15 Thread Koen Kooi
Op 14 sep. 2013, om 11:04 heeft Jan Alexander Steffens het volgende geschreven: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Koen Kooi > wrote: >> Please keep in mind that pstore is x86 only. EFI isn't x86 only, but >> exceedingly rare outside of that arch. > > What? Pstore itself isn't. It's a gene

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-14 Thread Jan Alexander Steffens
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Koen Kooi wrote: > Please keep in mind that pstore is x86 only. EFI isn't x86 only, but > exceedingly rare outside of that arch. What? Pstore itself isn't. It's a generic interface to persistent platform storage. There are backends using EFI variables, NVRAM (Po

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-14 Thread Koen Kooi
Op 13 sep. 2013, om 00:31 heeft Jan Alexander Steffens het volgende geschreven: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: >> I think the really late shutdown logs should more liekly end up in some >> EFI var and then flushed out on next boot or so... > > That sounds good

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:48:37PM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > 'Twas brillig, and Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek at 13/09/13 16:33 did > gyre and gimble: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:50:06AM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > >> 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/09/13 00:02 did gyre and > >>

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-13 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek at 13/09/13 16:33 did gyre and gimble: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:50:06AM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: >> 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/09/13 00:02 did gyre and gimble: >>> On Thu, 12.09.13 23:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wro

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:50:06AM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/09/13 00:02 did gyre and gimble: > > On Thu, 12.09.13 23:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: > > > >> > >> 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 21:51 did gyre and

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-13 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/09/13 00:02 did gyre and gimble: > On Thu, 12.09.13 23:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: > >> >> 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 21:51 did gyre and gimble: >>> On Thu, 12.09.13 21:27, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) w

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.09.13 23:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: > > 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 21:51 did gyre and gimble: > > On Thu, 12.09.13 21:27, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: > > > >>> So, as mentioned in the other thread, /usr should probably be on

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 13.09.13 00:31, Jan Alexander Steffens (jan.steff...@gmail.com) wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > I think the really late shutdown logs should more liekly end up in some > > EFI var and then flushed out on next boot or so... > > That sounds goo

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 21:51 did gyre and gimble: > On Thu, 12.09.13 21:27, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: > >>> So, as mentioned in the other thread, /usr should probably be on some >>> "OS resource blacklist" or so, and not attempted to be shutdown. >>> >>

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Jan Alexander Steffens
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I think the really late shutdown logs should more liekly end up in some > EFI var and then flushed out on next boot or so... That sounds good. Maybe use the pstore system? A service could then read that data into the journal at boot, a

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.07.13 18:50, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote: Heya, > So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind > mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location. > Furthermore, /sysroot points to the real root. > > Since last time we discusse

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.09.13 21:27, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: > > So, as mentioned in the other thread, /usr should probably be on some > > "OS resource blacklist" or so, and not attempted to be shutdown. > > > > But unmounting /var during shutdown should actually work. The only thing > > t

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 17:43 did gyre and gimble: > On Sat, 20.07.13 18:50, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote: > > Heya, > >> So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind >> mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared loca

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-07-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 06:50:13PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind > mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location. > Furthermore, /sysroot points to the real root. > > Since last time we discussed this: > h

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-07-24 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Colin Walters at 20/07/13 23:50 did gyre and gimble: > So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind > mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location. > Furthermore, /sysroot points to the real root. > > Since last time we discussed

[systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-07-20 Thread Colin Walters
So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location. Furthermore, /sysroot points to the real root. Since last time we discussed this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-September/006668.ht