Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:17:08PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > > I need some help with a problem. > > > > I'm currently using Fedora 16, but without a display manager. I log > > into a text-mode VT (usually tty1) and run startx manually. The > > display

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Dave Reisner
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:32:43AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:17:08PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > > > I need some help with a problem. > > > > > > I'm currently using Fedora 16, but without a display manager. I log > > > in

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: > > > You'll need to start X on the same VT that you logged in on. If it's > > > tty1, then: > > > > > > startx -- vt01 > > > > That's a reasonable workaround, but it's not a real fix. > > Why isn't it a real fix? It's simply different semantics from > c

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Alan Stern at 27/08/12 16:53 did gyre and gimble: > On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Dave Reisner wrote: > You'll need to start X on the same VT that you logged in on. If it's tty1, then: startx -- vt01 >>> >>> That's a reasonable workaround, but it's not a real fix. >>

Re: [systemd-devel] Bug in systemd? Running X without a display manager

2012-08-27 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:32:47 +0100 Colin Guthrie wrote: > > It's not really as simple as that these days. In order to do things > cleanly (and from what I understand the CK way was certainly far from > clean), you really need to use some kind of login agent. Typically this > would be the job of