Re: t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping

An the rate of improvement has slowed down in the period when Africans have dominated! John Bale - Original Message - From: Mcewen, Brian T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 4:44 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping > > So, Drew, bas

t-and-f: Johnny Gray

"How many 1:51 half-milers do you know that can run 47.87 or 3:44/4:02?"     Lots. A 1:51 half-miler should be able to run a 3:42. Regards,    Martin     Millard, Rouse & Rosebrugh    Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A.Chartered Accountants    Dir

t-and-f: Big 12 names CU's Wetmore Coach of Year

In a vote of his peers, Wetmore has been named the Big 12 Men's Coach of the Year for the fourth straight year and took the women's honor for the third time in a row. full item: http://thedailycamera.com/buffzone/sports/03scuxc.html == "Don't let me get too deep" -Edie Brickell

t-and-f: 1:51 vs 3:42-3:44 (was: Johnny Gray)

Some 1:51 halfer's can run 3:42, maybe - but the 1500 time is much better. For example, based on the Mercier score calculator at the Athletics Canada site: http://palmtree.physics.utoronto.ca/~newt/track/Mercier/instructions.html a 1:51.0 800m equates to a 3:46.9 1500m. Conversely, a 3:42.0 eq

t-and-f: Not the place for Accusations

I really don't think this forum was created to throw accusations around .. WE can have intelligent discussions on any topic under the sun .. Exchange ideas and hypotheses left and right .. Speculate as to why this that or the other is occurring .. But I think we really need to be more careful abou

Re: t-and-f: YES ALL ELITE ARE ON DRUGS

- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Note on the idea that African are too poor to buy drugs. Might I remind us > all inner city dwellers are too poor to buy drugs? No they aren't . Drug addicts in Western countries spend astounding amounts on drugs. Your inner city dwe

t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping

Netters I recently made a really bad analogy. No i don't equate cocaine and epo as easily acssible. I was just trying to point out that saying some country or that individual is too poor to buy drugs can not be used as a blanket defense. That is all.

Re: t-and-f: YES ALL ELITE ARE ON DRUGS

Yes they too are too poor to buy drugs.and so also is those who live in the suburbs . What dose this have to do with drugs in track??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Netters > > Ben Hall writes: > In response too mantis: > > > That is an idiotic statement. > > Mantis wrote: > > > The que

t-and-f: take me off the list

Please take me off the list

t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping

Mike wrote: < I recently made a really bad analogy. No I don't equate cocaine and epo as easily acssible. I was just trying to point out that saying some country or that individual is too poor to buy drugs can not be used as a blanket defense. That is all. > No you didn't .

t-and-f: Note to Statisticians - Ai Dongmei

Note to statisticians: I spoke to Chinese marathoner, Ai Dongmei, today at the New York City Marathon press conference. Through an interpreter --and in the presence of another Chinese/English speaker-- she said her date of birth was 15-Oct-1979, making her just 21 years-old. To be honest, she

t-and-f: Not the place for Accusations

> Conway Hill wrote > But I think that level of discussion would be > restricted to private conversations and thrown about .. Absolutely. As someone who has been a journalist for 40 years (now a publisher) I am well acquainted with laws of libel and although the US libel laws are considerably mor

Re: t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping

Not agreeing or disagreeing with most of what Brian wrote, but I've gotta be amused by the following: >Most anybody with some talent and enough drive can run 29:15. >From my experience around distance runners for the past 27 years, I'd guess that the talent to run a 29:15 is found in about 1

RE: t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping

I base my observations on 15 years of working with and observing government and corporate "mucky mucks". The saying "Do not attribute to conspiracy what is better explained by stupidity" is very true, and the public would be shocked at how absolutely true it is. Richard McCann At 04:14 PM 11

Re: t-and-f: Buying drugs and income

At 08:18 AM 11/3/2000 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote.. >Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 03:04:29 GMT >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: t-and-f: YES ALL ELITE ARE ON DRUGS > > >Note on the idea that African are too poor to buy drugs. Might I remind us >all inner city dwellers are too poor to buy drugs...

Re: t-and-f: Limits of performance

At 02:05 PM 11/2/2000 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote.. >I'm going to throw a different log on the fire of this discussion .. One >thing that hasn't been looked at in the discussion of limits and potential >are youth .. I would like to think that THEY are as close we are going to >come to a group of p

Re: t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping

The statement quoted below has no real content. It is merely a definition of the terms "some" and "enough." Dave Carey On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Mcewen, Brian T wrote: > > Most anybody with some talent and enough drive can run 29:15. >

t-and-f: Drugs

Netters:     It is pretty obviopus that no one will ever know, for certain, who is taking drugs and who is not. By certain, I mean the kind of thing which would stand up in a court.       This leaves every track fan to make his/her own judgments, not necessarily to make them public

RE: t-and-f: Limits of performance

> > So does anyone have the world best lists for each event by year in > electronic format? > > Richard McCann > > > Here's your link of top ten lists for the last 25 years: http://digilander.iol.it/rzocca/ malmo

t-and-f: Sorry, No Drug Content

Track Listers, I apologize profusely for not writing anything about drugs. I realize this is against the de facto list charter, Article I: Any and all posts should be about drugs. Discussion of any topics related to actual athletics events, either past or pending, is prohibited. But I'm going

Re: t-and-f: Limits of performance

>I think a good explanation for the recent leap is the addition of >pacers, >often world class themselves, in these record attempts. I wonder, when was the last time you saw a record attempt without a rabbit? Hell, how about the last time you saw an elite European distance race period without

t-and-f: What does this prove? Part 2...China

It doesn't have the women's 3k, 5k or 10k listed, but it does have the women's 1500. Take a look at '97. 9 of the top 10 are Chinese. Next two years, no Chinese. Someone please call BS on this one. Alan _ Get Your Private,

t-and-f: What does this prove?

http://digilander.iol.it/rzocca/ Performance list of the past 25 years. What does this prove if anything at all? We see both the 5k and 10k records drop dramatically in the early to mid 90's. Don't jump aboard the EPO bandwagon just yet. Could it be the rapid use of of rabbits? In the 10k you

RE: t-and-f: Sorry, No Drug Content

Kenya, South Africa, Mexico, China, Italy, Japan and Australia, but no Americans? I wonder where the NYC Marathon sponsors earn revenue? Those countries or the USA? H. malmo > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Monti > Sent:

RE: t-and-f: Sorry, No Drug Content

Well, when there are over 100 performances this year under the US's best performance (not counting KK) what do you expect? And folks, these guys aren't all 50lb Kenyans with legs smaller than my arms. Check out the number of runners from Japan, Korea, Italy, ect in the top 100 list: http://www