RE: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread Edward Koch
Back in the 1980's, the suspension for stimulents was the same as for steroids. I think in the early 1990's, a distinction between the two categories was written into the rules. Steroid use was subject to a two-year penalty on a first offense and life on a second offense.(The two year penalty

t-and-f: NJ HS State Meet

2001-05-16 Thread Kebba Tolbert
The New Jersey Meet of Champions is listed as being June 6th. Does anyone know the site of the meet? thanks, Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps Multis Coach Syracuse University Track Field

RE: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Ed Grant wrote: Obviously, there should be a way to avoid such occurrences. There IS a way: Don't take cold medicines when you KNOW you will test positive and get a DQ. Many people think, Well, my cold is real bad, so I HAVE TO take pseudoephedrine. That is where they are WRONG. Even if

t-and-f: MAC Preview - Rap version

2001-05-16 Thread Bob Ramsak
Hi all, I was going to put together my own preview of this weekend's MAC championships, then I came across this rap rendition that simply cannot be outdone. You can check it out on the www.mactrack.net message board at http://users3.cgiforme.com/mactrack/messages/75.html

RE: t-and-f: Howard and Clark redux

2001-05-16 Thread Michael Casey
Hi Ed, Taking any kind of medicine (especially cold medicine) without knowing what is in it is is extremely foolhardy to put the kindest interpretation on it. MIke -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed GrantSent: Wednesday,

t-and-f: Howard and Clark redux

2001-05-16 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: Thanks to those who answered my earlier post on this unfortunate situation. I have to disagree that there is any relation between taking something for a cold and for a serious leg inuury. The cold sufferer is seeking immediate, if temporary relief and, at least in that

RE: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread Andrew Owusu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mcewen, Brian T Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: track net Subject: RE: t-and-f: Howard and Clark Do you by chance suffer from severe allergies? If you did, I am sure you wouldn't make comments

Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread Ksully330
IMHO, there is no excuse for taking a banned over the counter cold/allergy medication. I am sitting here with a Drug Classification list from the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport (can be found on their website as well), which not only lists the banned drugs in each therapeutic class, but

t-and-f: SEC 800

2001-05-16 Thread Bob Ramsak
Hi All, A break from our pseudoephedrine habit... Not much talk about last weekend's terrific SEC. The men's 800 particularly stood out. While South Carolina's Otukile Lekote (Botswana)won in 1:45.36 (also the early world leader at 1:44.76), not far behind was Florida freshman Moise Joseph

t-and-f: HS all times list question

2001-05-16 Thread Joe Rubio
List, I'm eating lunch and reading The Source by Track and Field News where they list the HS men's and women's records. Within the section on The records as TFN sees them, they state that the HS season runs through 8/31. So here's my question. Say Ryan Hall runs 3:59.9 for the mile this

t-and-f: stimulants

2001-05-16 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Regarding stimulants, it seems like, for once, the IAAF has taken a pretty reasonable stance. As some may know, in the 19th century 6-day races were an immensely popular spectator sport. The races were run on indoor tracks and places like Madison Square Garden were filled night and day. The

Re: t-and-f: HS all times list question

2001-05-16 Thread Arthur Snoke
Can't help you on your specific question, but the June HS-only invitationals are often after graduation for many students. If the rule is that a runner is no longer in high school after graduation, that would decimate those invitationals! I know of one case (dating from 1959) where a runner broke

Re: t-and-f: stimulants

2001-05-16 Thread philip_ponebshek
Ed Parrot wrote: As some may know, in the 19th century 6-day races were an immensely popular spectator sport. One of several reasons that the popularity of the races diminished was that the competitors started using all kinds of different stimulants to keep themselves going - most of it was

Re: t-and-f: SEC 800

2001-05-16 Thread Mitchell S. Clair, Esq
Lekote's improvement is every bit as impressive. His PR coming into the year was 1:48.14. -Original Message-From: Bob Ramsak [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: tf list [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:13 PMSubject: t-and-f: SEC 800 Hi All, A break from our

Re: t-and-f: HS all times list question

2001-05-16 Thread philip_ponebshek
FWIW, Schilling first sub-4 is given as Mark Schilling 3:58.6 Baton Rouge 09Jun73 on the TFN and RW 4-minute milers lists. While the subject of HS milers is afoot, anyone know where Pat Hoffman's site resides these days? Phil List, I'm eating lunch and reading The Source by Track

Re: t-and-f: SEC 800

2001-05-16 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 5/16/01 2:18:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not much talk about last weekend's terrific SEC. The men's 800 particularly stood out. While South Carolina's Otukile Lekote (Botswana) won in 1:45.36 (also the early world leader at 1:44.76), not far behind was Florida

Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread bobhersh
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am sitting here with a Drug Classification list from the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport (can be found on their website as well), which not only lists the banned drugs in each therapeutic class, but gives a very large number of Examples

Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread LTricard
In a message dated 05/16/2001 10:46:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is where they are WRONG. Even if you take it for a cold, it is STILL giving you an advantage. It is still a stimulant whether it is bought at the supermarket or the perf. dope pusher. let's

t-and-f: clark

2001-05-16 Thread LTricard
and hazel didn't go to lisbon, so what was she trying to do just beat jearl?

Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread Dgs1170
In a message dated 05/16/2001 11:12:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a hard time feeling sorry for people in these situations when the information is so readily available. A sad and naive statement coming from a current athlete. The information is not readily

Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

2001-05-16 Thread Mpplatt
I'll go one further, you would have to be cut off from civilization or illiterate and deaf to not be aware that many over the counter medicines could blow a positive. Even at my pitiful hack level of accomplishment we ALL were warned over and over and over again to not take ANYTHING! It is a

t-and-f: Hoffman lists URL

2001-05-16 Thread Oleg Shpyrko
Hoffman's website is at the same URL it's been for years: http://www.cs.uml.edu/~phoffman/xc.html More specifically, here's a link to HS all-time list: http://www.cs.uml.edu/~phoffman/nats/milers1.htm Oleg. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf

Re: t-and-f: Sanchez, Webb, Ritzenhein in USA TODAY

2001-05-16 Thread Edward Nigma
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